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My first post on this forum :-), I hope you can help me.

 

I have a 64 plate Golf R with 19 inch Cadiz Alloys fitted. I bought the car from my local VW main dealer in May last year, since then I have driven around 4k miles.

 

Last weekend I noticed that all 4 wheels are flaking on the spokes, the rears having the worst damage. The wheels have not been kerbed, and the tyres were replaced by VW when I bought the car.

 

I went back to the main delaer today expecting that the wheels would be replaced as the car was less than 3 years old, has only 14k miles on the clock, and I had only had the car 7 months. To my amazement I was told that they were not able to help, and I needed to speak with VW customer care.

 

Have others found problems with the cadiz alloy?

Should the warranty cover the damage to the lacquer?

 

Any help or guidance is much appreciated

Mark

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The problems happens because lacquer isn't designed to stick to bare metal, it's designed to bond with paint so basically the lacquer is floating on the surface of the metal which makes it very fragil

It could possibly be the onset or precursor to whiteworm, for which VW diamond cut wheels (as Cadiz are) are notorious. Whiteworm can take hold on undamaged wheels but often appears once there's a wea

Acidic wheel cleaners, the likes of Wonder Wheels etc, can be very bad news for alloys.  You've only got to look in the recent wheel bolt cover thread to see what impact just one application can have,

Hello,

 

My first post on this forum :-), I hope you can help me.

 

I have a 64 plate Golf R with 19 inch Cadiz Alloys fitted. I bought the car from my local VW main dealer in May last year, since then I have driven around 4k miles.

 

Last weekend I noticed that all 4 wheels are flaking on the spokes, the rears having the worst damage. The wheels have not been kerbed, and the tyres were replaced by VW when I bought the car.

 

I went back to the main delaer today expecting that the wheels would be replaced as the car was less than 3 years old, has only 14k miles on the clock, and I had only had the car 7 months. To my amazement I was told that they were not able to help, and I needed to speak with VW customer care.

 

Have others found problems with the cadiz alloy?

Should the warranty cover the damage to the lacquer?

 

Any help or guidance is much appreciated

Mark

It could possibly be the onset or precursor to whiteworm, for which VW diamond cut wheels (as Cadiz are) are notorious. Whiteworm can take hold on undamaged wheels but often appears once there's a weakness in the lacquer then corrosion in the form of whiteworm can take hold, and it occurs on any part of the diamond cut area but is often prevalent around centre caps and the rim edges but can also affect main spokes. Similarly it could be some other form of corrosion that has got under the lacquer and is causing it to flake. Use of acidic wheel cleaners can exacerbate whiteworm and corrosion and even cause it if there is any defect or damage to the wheel and the acid gets under the lacquer and attacks the alloy.

 

It's been discussed on here previously. People whose wheels have suffered whiteworm within warranty period have had wheels replaced under warranty, though you may have to fight your corner vehemently. If your wheels are otherwise damaged them you'll have a stronger case. Worth going back to the dealer and arguing your case to take it up with VWCS.

 

http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/9107-cadiz-wheel-issue-advise-requried/

 

http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/15900-cadiz-white-worming/

 

Also a link to recent discussion on the GTI forum about whiteworm on diamond cut wheels and some replaced under warranty.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=279444.0

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You could always see if they will pay to have them refurbed. Could be, as Booth11 has said that acidic wheel cleaner could be the culprit and destroyed the lacquer, possibly by the last owner - I had painted wheels on one of my Cupra Rs and  used Valet Pro Bilberry wheel cleaner - it can be diluted according to what strength you want - very good and smells nice too! Don't know if becs knows of any others?

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You could always see if they will pay to have them refurbed. Could be, as Booth11 has said that acidic wheel cleaner could be the culprit and destroyed the lacquer, possibly by the last owner - I had painted wheels on one of my Cupra Rs and  used Valet Pro Bilberry wheel cleaner - it can be diluted according to what strength you want - very good and smells nice too! Don't know if becs knows of any others?

 

Acidic wheel cleaners, the likes of Wonder Wheels etc, can be very bad news for alloys.  You've only got to look in the recent wheel bolt cover thread to see what impact just one application can have, granted that's in plastic but over time on wheels they can cause damage. But agree camelsac, there are some very good non acidic wheel cleaners which won't cause any harm even used weekly.  I've used VP Bilberry Wheel Cleaner for years on both VW diamond cut and powder coated wheels, used diluted at 1:10 (pretty weak) for weekly/fortnightly use and 1:3 for if I want to strip old sealant off, it's very gentle on alloys.  Have also used Obsessive Detail (forum sponsor) Non acidic Clarity Wheel Cleaner a couple of times so far (used neat) and it's also very effective and gentle with no ill effects. 

 

Back on topic, as it's a car bought used, it's probably impossible to know how the wheels have been treated previously, if they've been subjected to acidic wheel cleaner used in auto car washes, or if they've been refurbished, but that might be the case, and could be one reason they are starting to flake.  I guess the OP can always check the stamps on the wheels to check if they are genuine and not replicas as mentioned by James (meercat) which is another possibility.  But as said previously genuine VW diamond cut alloys are no stranger to corrosion and often starts roughly around the 2 year point in their life.  

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The Austin wheels on my GTIPP7 were suffering from corrosion within a year, I didn't do anything about them as I knew the Dealership wouldn't notice when I traded the car in and sure enough they didn't even look at it! This was the main reason that I made sure the"R" had Prets. VW Diamond cut wheels are cr*p.

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The Austin wheels on my GTIPP7 were suffering from corrosion within a year, I didn't do anything about them as I knew the Dealership wouldn't notice when I traded the car in and sure enough they didn't even look at it! This was the main reason that I made sure the"R" had Prets. VW Diamond cut wheels are cr*p.

 

I agree...most diamond cut wheels have this issue..,.Ive not seen any that don't after some time.

 

Good luck with VW

 

In the long term I'd try and source a set of genuine Pret's from EBay or similar.

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Nothing wrong with my Cadiz and was nothing wrong with my 8 year old Monza's on my previous 2007 GTI.

Abuse them and they will not stand the test of time

Look after them and they will be fine!

 

Mine get cleaned gently using only safe products like autobrite non acid brite gel using a wool mitt and wheel woolie then couple coats poorboys wax every 2-3 months, 16 months old and still look brand new!

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Nothing wrong with my Cadiz and was nothing wrong with my 8 year old Monza's on my previous 2007 GTI.

Abuse them and they will not stand the test of time

Look after them and they will be fine!

 

Mine get cleaned gently using only safe products like autobrite non acid brite gel using a wool mitt and wheel woolie then couple coats poorboys wax every 2-3 months, 16 months old and still look brand new!

I'm not sure it's all down to care of the wheels in the case of vw diamond cuts. Though I never suffered corrosion on my 2008 Mk5 Monza's (or my mk6 Glendales), I know several people who looked after their wheels religiously, but still they succumbed to whiteworm and corrosion. But in any case, the OP can't know how his Cadiz have been treated by previous owners :-(

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Nothing wrong with my Cadiz and was nothing wrong with my 8 year old Monza's on my previous 2007 GTI.

Abuse them and they will not stand the test of time

Look after them and they will be fine!

 

Mine get cleaned gently using only safe products like autobrite non acid brite gel using a wool mitt and wheel woolie then couple coats poorboys wax every 2-3 months, 16 months old and still look brand new!

I did look after mine, I used an acid free alloy wheel cleaner and waxed them but it was obvious from the start that there were slight nicks on the rims where the tyres had been fitted and the first winters road salt soon found its way under the laquer. The black paint was very soft and hot brake dust embedded itself in the paint, both the paint and the laquer scratched very easily, they were a nightmare!

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The Austin wheels on my GTIPP7 were suffering from corrosion within a year, I didn't do anything about them as I knew the Dealership wouldn't notice when I traded the car in and sure enough they didn't even look at it! This was the main reason that I made sure the"R" had Prets. VW Diamond cut wheels are cr*p.

Glad I specced the Prets on mine now.

 

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