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Mod 41 (I think !!) :-

 

Fitted the APR dog bone mount / lower pendulum mount insert to eliminate some engine rock .....

 

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Went for this over the more established 034 one as this is made of stainless steel rather than aluminium so less likely to bend as much.

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1 hour ago, Roth said:

What are the first impressions?

 

Have to say that the car was a beast this morning - a very noticeable stronger push from the rear wheels Haldex service is highly recommended!

 

As for the dog bone insert gear changes felt slicker and the car a lot more ‘composed’ going over speed bumps and uneven road surfaces - this came at the expense of slight vibration on cold start.

 

 

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1 hour ago, GaryP said:

Was it a DIY mod...??


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Yes - between showers Friday afternoon.

 

1 hour for the Haldex and 5 mins for the dog bone insert. I got lucky and the engine didn’t move, fitted the 034 version to my S3 which moved after removing the bolt and it was an absolute PITA to put back in you have to get a pal to hold the back of the engine and pull forward to get the bolt to align.

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On 13/07/2018 at 06:29, Rob2k68 said:

Mod 36 :-

 

Wheel Spacers : So after much thought and research I've gone and done it - bought some spacers that is. These are very popular and there's lots of choice and it can become a minefield with which extended bolt and locking bolt to buy (you need ball or radius seat for OEM wheels, taper is popular with aftermarket wheels). I also wanted to be able to re-use the VW plastic nut covers and maintain a factory look something that is difficult with after market extended locking bolts - more on that later.

 

After lowering the car it became more obvious that the car looks over bodied, that is that the wheels are sunk too far into the arches. This especially bugged me when looking at the car in the angle shown below. I did consider replacing the Prets with Racingline R360 or Revo RV019 which are 8.5" wide and a different ET but at the end of the day I've already shelled out nearly £1k to have the Prets as an option and for me these are the classic 'R' wheel. 

 

I've gone for 8mm front and 12mm rear. For two reasons, firstly the hubcentric spacer type which has a little flange on to hang the wheel on rather than being a flat disc is only available from 8mm and over. I've read reports of wheel vibration when fitting non hubcentric spacers so this was a must for me. Secondly, I was keen to preserve the factory difference in front and rear track so as not to adversely effect handling and chassis dynamics. Standard front track is 1541 and rear is 1515 (measured to centre of tyre) so 26mm wider at the front. With the spacers fitted I'll be 1557 front and 1535 rear so still 22mm wider up front.

 

A gratuitous box shot .....

 

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Maybe OCD but masked up ready to paint in silver hammerite to perfectly match my hubs .....

 

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THAT angle .....

 

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Will add the 'after' pics this afternoon or tomorrow .....

 

Hi Rob,

 

This is a great thread and have read through most things and it's really helped with mods on my R.

 

I've got the exact 8mm and 12mm H&R spacers on the way but without bolts to fit with 19" Prets. Please can I ask what bolts and locking bolts you are using?

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3 hours ago, bradley391 said:

 

Hi Rob,

 

This is a great thread and have read through most things and it's really helped with mods on my R.

 

I've got the exact 8mm and 12mm H&R spacers on the way but without bolts to fit with 19" Prets. Please can I ask what bolts and locking bolts you are using?

 

Really great to hear that you have enjoyed it and found it useful 👍

 

Original bolts are 27mm long so I’m using 34,5mm up front and 41mm rear (bit longer just in case I went to a 15mm spacer at any point). Lockers wise I have McGard black locking bolts radius seat part number 28032SUB front and 28025SUB rear. Some may say a bit of a pain carrying round 2 locking keys but that is my attention to detail OCD kicking in 😂

 

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5 minutes ago, Rob2k68 said:

 

Really great to hear that you have enjoyed it and found it useful 👍

 

Original bolts are 27mm long so I’m using 34,5mm up front and 41mm rear (bit longer just in case I went to a 15mm spacer at any point). Lockers wise I have McGard black locking bolts radius seat part number 28032SUB front and 28025SUB rear. Some may say a bit of a pain carrying round 2 locking keys but that is my attention to detail OCD kicking in 😂

 

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Great thanks! Do you think you would go to 15mm rear spacers? I’ve been recommended 11mm front and 16mm rear but I think that might be a little much! Yes I think I will be getting the Mcgards also. 

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Great thanks! Do you think you would go to 15mm rear spacers? I’ve been recommended 11mm front and 16mm rear but I think that might be a little much! Yes I think I will be getting the Mcgards also. 


You’re welcome .

After a bit of juggling I’m now running 8mm front and 10mm rear so will be sticking with that.


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20 minutes ago, Rob2k68 said:

 


You’re welcome .

After a bit of juggling I’m now running 8mm front and 10mm rear so will be sticking with that.


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Did you go 34.5mm for the front locking because they don’t do a 35mm? Also what are the lengths of the normal bolts you are using front and rear? Are they H&R?

 

Apologies for the questions! It’s a mine field trying to get this right lol. 

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2 minutes ago, bradley391 said:

 

Did you go 34.5mm for the front locking because they don’t do a 35mm? Also what are the lengths of the normal bolts you are using front and rear? Are they H&R?

 

Apologies for the questions! It’s a mine field trying to get this right lol. 

 

Pretty much yes it was best fit as the bolts I got from Awesome were 35mm front and 40mm rear, not sure what make but they're decent enough quality.

 

Make sure you go radius seat bolts for OEM prets. 

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Another switcheroo, I found the APR insert to add vibration and noise between 800-1,200 rpm it was more noticeable on a cold start . I doubt you would notice it at all with a res delete or aftermarket exhaust but it was enough for me to look at something else.

 

Only fitted yesterday but this moulded polyurethane part by Powerflex fills the voids in the factory bushing and being non metallic doesn’t transmit any vibrations or noise through the chassis. Very pleased with it .....

 

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What difference does it make? 
 
Any downside? 


Reduced engine/transmission movement so crisper gear shifts and less engine hop (especially FWD) so gets the power down sooner.

Negatives can be a little more transmitted noise into the cabin with metal inserts.

Polyurethane inserts isolate any transmission of noise but will wear over time.

If stage 2 or 3 I’d definitely go metal.


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