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This is just an idea to help All Members, but especially those buying and running their own R.  I have no axe to grind, or preferences or links to anywhere.  I am open to this being thought rubbish,  or not being a good idea .

My concern is to help fellow enthusiasts to avoid any unnecessary Overpaying when buying new tyres.  I know it will need development & refinement after comments, and updating.  I will undertake to periodically update in view of comments and new information.  

 

TYRES, vital and an awkward subject at best, a frequently asked question,   and a big expense too.

Many ownwers want the Best All round Tyre, or Quietest, or Best Wet road grip, or Dry Grippiest, or Track Tyre, or whatever....then there is the whole discussion over Summer vs All Season vs Winter Tyres.  This question will be relevant if you live where winter temperatures stay below 7 degrees between October and March, and ice , rain and snow is frequently encountered.   Individual investigations are the best solution here, but summer tyres because of their tread and compound will offer little grip and traction in snow, ice and slush and braking performance is hugely reduced in low temperatures on wet surfaces.  The best All Season tyres sacrifice a little Winter (snow) performance and extreme Summer performance too.  These can be a great option, especially for the UK climate, dispensing with the need for two sets of tyres.

 

I think we’ll all agree that there can often be a big difference in the price you have to pay -  maybe over £100 per set or more for the same tyres from the same source just a different Offer Week.   There can be a big price difference between Main Dealer and Tyre Specialist.   A Big difference between a planned replacement and emergency/ urgent purchase.  It should only be in a real emergency that you are compelled to pay Top Dollar for a Tyre ( and even then it’s worth trying to barter a lower price).

My idea is for a readily Available Thread on here for All Members to use to help find the best Prices for their preferred Tyres easily and quickly.   So if doing on a carefully planned basis you can wait for the mega deals, maybe even buy tyres on line and have fitted later by local known Fitting specialist.. Please remember to check that everything is included: Fitting, Balancing, Valves and Disposal of old tyres.  And if you are concerned about buying old stock, make sure to check the date the Tyre was manufactured, as shown on the tyre wall, prior to fitting.  Also when fitting 4 new tyres it is often worth getting a full Wheel Alignment done too, (Hunter Alignment well regarded and recommended). to help get new rubber off to the best start and prevent premature/uneven wear.

OR 

if more urgent find the best price for buying online and local fitting in next few days,  Many Tyre Suppliers claim to price  match, so be prepared to test this out.  

OR 

getting a specialist price and using this for Price Matching purposes.  with another specialist or Dealer.  I’ve done this and saved  decent £ and time.

AND 

I’m aware that not everyone enjoys spending time going to a Tyre Centre and waiting around while the job gets done.. time Costs..

Some Tyre Specialsts, eg. Kwik-Fit offer mobile fitting so at home or at work may be possible.  If able to be flexible eg. Able to have done at home early morning to late evening then charge for this can be just around  £10. (I bought 2 tyres from Kwik-Fit online and had at home figment.  The fitter was a great car enthusiast, went the extra mile with mine and Massively appreciated working undercover in our Garage, plied with Coffee & biscuits).

 

REMEMBER this Advice when fitting from @blower - To avoid damage by the fitter  -  before I get new tyres I painstakingly remove all the wheel weights b4 my trip to the tyre fitters.....did this b4 putting PS4S tyres all round on my pret's.

(I remove each wheel, one by one - then use a plastic trim removal tool to prize the weights off. Best done when the wheels are cold as the adhesive on the tape is hard and is more likely to come off in one go with the weights. Clean up any residue with isopropyl alcohol /rubbing alcohol).  

I also accompany this with 'each wheel costs over £1000 so be careful please'......the owner then comes out and does the job, handling the wheels as if they a baby.

 

BEST FAVOURED TYRES  - just pulled from posts and chat on here;

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (19”) or Pilot Sport 4 (18”). Nb. MPS4S available in 18” size too, from Jan 2021.

Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport

GoodyeearEagle Assymetrico 5

Pirelli P Zero

Dunlop Sport Maxx RT2

and less so,

Continental Contact Sport 5/6

Bridgestone S001.

New Bridgestone Potenza Sport now May 21.

Also some owners have given good feedback about All Season Tyres, eg. “Michelin Cross- Climate” when Full Winter Tread Tyres are not needed.  @Penguin reports much satisfaction from Michelin Cross Climate+ which gives excellent performance at lower temperatures and snow.

 

When to Change?

In order to ensure best tyre performance, and being R drivers/owners, we may choose to ignore minimum tread guidance of 1.6mm etc and opt instead to change our Summer Tyres before or  at 3mm tread depth and Winter Tyres before or at 4mm.   Below this depth performance can dramatically deteriorate.

 

When you change Tyres

In an ideal world change four at once. Next best a new pair.

Best guidance from Tyre Manufacturers and Suppliers May be contrary to many.  (Me for one! with thanks to @Gavras  and @Booth11 for updating , modifying knowledge and understanding).

New Tyres should go on the Rear axle. Always have the tyres with most tread to the rear.  If not, the vehicle Rear is suceptible to sudden aquaplaning, loss of grip, traction and control which may result in a sudden, unexpected spin.

 

Further Guidance and just about everything you might ever want or need to know about Best Tyres, Summer, Winter or All Season / Cross Climate - check out Tyre Reviews on YouTube.

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/TyreReviews

 

An Essential reference  and information source, imho.  If you have time, take a look, at both YT Videos and the hard Text online.

 

 

TYRE SPECIALISTS, nationals only....

blackcircles.com

kwik-fit.com

atseuromastr.co.uk

national.co.uk

Asda.com

Costo.com (look out for periodic £100 Off Bargain Offers)

Formula One Autocentre.  f1autocentres.co.uk

Tyreleader.co.uk

 

 

 

Also Independent Specialists;  Camskill, Whitehaven for great deals.

Camskill.co.uk

And

McConechys - various locations,

McConechys.co.uk

oponeo.co.uk. For online deals.

 

Also look at Tyre Manufacturer’s site for and Discount Deals obtainable in addition to discounted prices from Tyre Specialists.  Look out too for Cahback codes/vouchers on Cashback websites.  It can all help keep your spend to a minimum.

There will sadly, still be occasions in which a puncture or damage will mean no alternative to being “over a barrel” and having to pay out in full. Discount Code sites also worth a look.

 

I guess the bottom line is the Buyer, at point of purchase, should be happy with the price they are paying. 

Comments and Views very welcome, please. I’m done for now. 

I will make efforts to keep this Original Postupdated in view of comments, new info, deals etc. So please feel free to add your latest bargain find, deal or tip.

Drive safely on good tyres  in the meantime, remember, any money you save by selective buying can be well spent on super unleaded, detailing products, routine maintenance, an oil change or Haldex service!

 

 

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Updated O.P. with comments up to 10.05.21
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TYRES This is just an idea to help All Members, but especially those buying and running their own R.  I have no axe to grind, or preferences or links to anywhere.  I am open to this being thought

Good point, I could probably haggle the price down with this information Sent from my fingers

I finally bit the bullet and got PS4S's last week.  What a difference.  My tyres were near the limit, so much more confidence now.  They just grip and grip.  I bought them from Protyre who had a fitti

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3 hours ago, NoR said:

 Suppliers are allowed to sell tyres up to 3 years old as new!

 

But that doesn't mean we have to buy them.  I always ask what are the date stamps on the sidewalls.  If they are more than 6 months old I refuse to buy them (this has happened several times).  I don't drive a lot of miles so I usually replace my tyres based on age (no more than 4 years old) rather than tread depth, so I want fresh tyres, not old ones.

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1 hour ago, gregozedobe said:

 

But that doesn't mean we have to buy them.  I always ask what are the date stamps on the sidewalls.  If they are more than 6 months old I refuse to buy them (this has happened several times).  I don't drive a lot of miles so I usually replace my tyres based on age (no more than 4 years old) rather than tread depth, so I want fresh tyres, not old ones.

Sound advice. I knew I’d heard  that recently! Must have been on here. Agree 100%.  Cheers. 

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20 hours ago, NRW said:

TYRES

This is just an idea to help All Members, especially those buying and running their own R.  I have No Axe to grind or preferences or links to anywhere.  Also open to this being rubbish,  not being a good idea .

My concern is to help fellow enthusiasts to Avoid any unnecessary Overpaying.   

I know it will need development & refinement after comments, and updating.  Not sure how best to do this.  Or it May have already been done I haven’t found it.

 

TYRES, vital and an awkward subject at best, a frequently asked question,  a Big expense too.

Many ownwers want the Best All round Tyre, or Quietest, or Best Wet road grip, or Dry Grippiest, or Track Tyre, or whatever....

 

I think we’ll all agree that there can often be a big difference in the price you have to pay -  maybe over £100 per set or more for the same tyres from the same source just a different Offer Week.  Big Price difference between Main Dealer and Tyre Specialist.  Big difference between a planned replacement and emergency/ urgent purchase.  It should only be in a real emergency that you are compelled to pay Top Dollar for a Tyre ( and even then it’s worth trying to barter a lower price).

My idea is for a readily Available Thread on here for All Members to use to help find the best Prices for their preferred Tyres easily and quickly.   So if doing on a carefully planned basis you can wait for the mega deals, maybe even buy tyres on line and have fitted later by local known Fitting specialist..

OR 

if more urgent find the best price for buying online and local fitting in next few days,

OR 

getting a specialist price and using this for Price Matching purposes.  with another specialist or Dealer.  I’ve done this and saved  decent £ and time.

AND 

(I’m aware that not everyone enjoys spending time going to a Tyre Centre and waiting around while the job gets done.. time Costs..

Some Tyre Specialsts, eg. Kwik-Fit offer mobile fitting so at home or at work may be possible.  If able to be flexible eg. Able to have done at home early morning to late evening then charge for this can be just around  £10. (I bought 2 tyres from Kwik-Fit online and had at home figment.  The fitter was a great car enthusiast, went the extra mile with mine and Massively appreciated working undercover in our Garage, plied with Coffee & biscuits).

 

BEST FAVOURED TYRES  - just pulled from posts and chat on here

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (19”) or 4 (18”)

Goodyear Eagle Assymetrico 5

Pirelli P Zero

Dunlop Sport Maxx RT2

and less so,

Continental Contact Sport 5/6

Bridgestone S001.

 

TYRE SPECIALISTS, nationals only....

blackcircles.com

kwik-fit.com

atseuromastr.co.uk

national.co.uk

 

Also look at Tyre Manufacturersite for and Discount Deals obtainable in addition to discounted prices from Tyre Specialists.

There will sadly, still be occasions in which a puncture or damage will mean no alternative to being “over a barrel” and having to pay out in full. Discount Code sites also worth a look.

 

I guess the bottom line is the Buyer, at point of purchase, should be happy with the price they are paying. 

Comments and Views very welcome, please. I’m done for now. 

 

 

Great post Neil...Very informative...:smiley:

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3 hours ago, Ted Striker said:

Thanks for this. Hoping to refer back in the future.

 

Anyone tried Michelin Cross Climates?

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

I had Crossclimate+ fitted to 18” Pret replicas to run as a winter set and am really pleased with them.  Didn’t get any snow to try them in, but YouTube videos suggest they’ll be fine.   They dropped off (steering feel, grip, confidence) when temperature started to get into the mid 10s so I wouldn’t run them all year round.  You could though as long as you’re prepared for a drop off in performance in the warmer months.

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Quick review after driving home on my newly installed MPS4S's....:smiley:

WOW!!!!....What a difference!!!.....I thought my Pirelli P Zero's were a good tire.....The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's are twice as good....:afro:

I know I'm comparing used tires with 22,000 km's on them against brand new MPS4S...But the effect of driving on the new tires is literally night and day!!

 

Very happy to say the least....They have transformed my R....and has made it now even more enjoyable to drive....:)

The hype is true....These really are unbelievable....So glad I bought them...Great investment...:smiley:

The grip there tires produce is unreal...:blink::)

Best tire I've ever driven on by a BIG margin...:)

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.jpg

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27 minutes ago, goodbadboy said:

The hype is true....These really are unbelievable....So glad I bought them...

Thanks Paul for this really good, useful feedback. I meant to ask yesterday but got distracted. 

I ve only done about 2700 miles in mine so far so the Continentals are hardly worn. Noise on some surfaces is an issue for me,but not big enough to junk them yet.  Still tho, I’m putting Michelin PS4S x 4  on my ChristmasBirthdayWishlist, they might be there a while. 

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