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My fronts got flagged up by VW as being 'low on tread' recently.

14,000 miles from factory with 10 laps of a certain big green circuit in Germany

 

Swapped to PS4s on just the front for now and the road noise is SO much more improved! I never thought there'd be such a difference from just changing one axle - and against a similar 'premium' brand.

 

Conclusion: Bridgestone Potenzas are useless and by supplying them with the car, VW makes a worse car.

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In my experience new tyres always sound quieter than old tyres.

Not enough comments are posted about noise levels after

a few thousand miles as I’ve noticed there can be big differences

once they are worn in.

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31 minutes ago, delboy01 said:

In my experience new tyres always sound quieter than old tyres.

Not enough comments are posted about noise levels after

a few thousand miles as I’ve noticed there can be big differences

once they are worn in.

Very true.

 

its not the actual general noise that people may pick up on, but the absence of certain frequencies and  these coupled with vibrations generated by the tyres on the road. Put new tyres on and you eliminate these, the actual reduction in overall noise may actually be minor.

 

there are also not enough tyre tests carried out when tyres are at 4mm and 3mm.

 

this is often where you really see the difference between a cheaper and more premium tyre.

 

the difference in tyre performance between new and 3mm, is quite shocking and puts winter - summer difference as minor.

 

there needs to be more emphasis on non straight line braking but include lateral, the type where you brake coming around a corner.

 

tyre performance between various manufacturers changes as you hit 4-3 mm level.

 

there is just far far to much emphasis placed on costs and getting as close to the magic 1.6mm limit.

 

costs, rather than how much risk do I want to put my family in by driving with these tyres.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Idylla said:

My fronts got flagged up by VW as being 'low on tread' recently.

14,000 miles from factory with 10 laps of a certain big green circuit in Germany

 

Swapped to PS4s on just the front for now and the road noise is SO much more improved! I never thought there'd be such a difference from just changing one axle - and against a similar 'premium' brand.

 

Conclusion: Bridgestone Potenzas are useless and by supplying them with the car, VW makes a worse car.

A new member for the MPS4 Appreciation Society. Interesting about the reduced noise.

Michelin  really need to start offering Periodically, a Group Discount to R people.🤞

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10 hours ago, Gavras said:

Very true.

 

its not the actual general noise that people may pick up on, but the absence of certain frequencies and  these coupled with vibrations generated by the tyres on the road. Put new tyres on and you eliminate these, the actual reduction in overall noise may actually be minor.

 

there are also not enough tyre tests carried out when tyres are at 4mm and 3mm.

 

this is often where you really see the difference between a cheaper and more premium tyre.

 

the difference in tyre performance between new and 3mm, is quite shocking and puts winter - summer difference as minor.

 

there needs to be more emphasis on non straight line braking but include lateral, the type where you brake coming around a corner.

 

tyre performance between various manufacturers changes as you hit 4-3 mm level.

 

there is just far far to much emphasis placed on costs and getting as close to the magic 1.6mm limit.

 

costs, rather than how much risk do I want to put my family in by driving with these tyres.

 

 

I couldn’t agree more. The wife’s car is an Evoque and I took it to work in the snow earlier this year. The rears were the originals and 30,000 miles in with 3mm of tread. Parked in snow on a level driveway, and tried to pull forward to and just spinning the rears. New tyres fitted and there is nowhere it won’t go. 

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47 minutes ago, Kevmoz said:

I couldn’t agree more. The wife’s car is an Evoque and I took it to work in the snow earlier this year. The rears were the originals and 30,000 miles in with 3mm of tread. Parked in snow on a level driveway, and tried to pull forward to and just spinning the rears. New tyres fitted and there is nowhere it won’t go. 

Hence why Winter tyres need changed at 4mm, in some EU countries its illegal driving on winters with less than 4mm.

 

 

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On 20/12/2019 at 19:35, Gavras said:

Hence why Winter tyres need changed at 4mm, in some EU countries its illegal driving on winters with less than 4mm.

 

 


Probably why we’re seeing a wave of half worn winter tyres coming through in the uk as regular part worn A grade. 

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1 hour ago, Jon R306 said:


Probably why we’re seeing a wave of half worn winter tyres coming through in the uk as regular part worn A grade. 

That's thing though for winters in snow, 4mm / 3mm is definite change time.

 

its really wrong to call them half worn, more like 75-85% worn.

 

you see it a fair bit with SUV drivers on worn winters, confused why they get stuck lol.

 

 

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Exactly 👍

 

One of My local Tyre fitting/suppliers were Taken a back when I answered his statement of “ we’ve a load of excellent winters just come in at £30 fitted for your size “ 🤔🤨

I wouldn’t have those fitted if they were free and My conti 5 on 5mm will do a better job thanks.

They were half budget god knows who I’d never heard of , all at 3-4mm and they were selling like hot cakes.

Major RTA waiting to happen as some unsespecting customers will think they have all the grip in the world now and ready for winter 🤨

Theyre leathal in the wrong situation especially come summer time when these customers are running them to the legal limit.

but then again 90% of them couldn’t care less until there hedge bound backwards..these tyres should be destroyed in the country of origin but the good old Brits love um 😳

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27 minutes ago, JoeSepi said:

How have people found the wear on Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S, 19" mine have seemed to wear down on the outer edge on the fronts, is this normal for these or are my wheel spacers causing the problem?

Pretty much any tyre 'should' wear evenly across the surface.

 

usually incorrect pressures or an element of tracking being out changes where main contact area is.

 

however driving types and area do as well.

 

yes potentially, they could, worth getting full check carried out, usual hunter stuff.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, JoeSepi said:

How have people found the wear on Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S, 19" mine have seemed to wear down on the outer edge on the fronts, is this normal for these or are my wheel spacers causing the problem?


Very even wear on my PS4S and they’ve been on for a good several thousand miles now and tread depths checked regularly.  
 

I’d check your tyre pressures first if you are getting quite uneven wear and if not that then a full alignment check is a good idea. 

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How have people found the wear on Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S, 19" mine have seemed to wear down on the outer edge on the fronts, is this normal for these or are my wheel spacers causing the problem?

 

Outer edge wear is typically either under inflated tyres (if both outer edges of each tyre) or they are toe’ing in more than they should be...

 

Can just be from very enthusiastic cornering too though - is throwing it at corners and messing with understeer.

 

For what it’s worth the circa 40k miles ive done in my R(s) the tyres have worn evenly so suggests to me either tyre pressures and/or alignment need checking

 

 

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