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FL RS3 or Pre Facelift RS3? Does FL RS3 justify price hike?

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If you can put up with small (but useable) rear seats then get the TTRS. 
 
I’ve had a Golf R, PFL RS3, lengthy drives in FL RS3’s and now on my second TTRS. 
 
PFL RS3 is just outrageously loud and brilliant for it.  If you are after a true 5-pot warble, it’s the one to buy. 
 
FL RS3 (pre OPF) sounds much quieter inside but still great from the outside.  It’s marginally quicker but not much in it, however, it tunes really well and actually is possibly more interesting to listen to.  The engines really are chalk and cheese.  The biggest difference though is the handling.  FL car feels like it’s 100kg lighter over the front axle, never mind 26kg. 
 
But as above, if you can put up with the slightly less practical side of it then go for the TTRS.  Handling is a serious step up over even a FL RS3, it’s usefully lighter, faster and the interior is a quantum leap forward.  And the best bit is that despite costing £8k more new, they can now be had for the same price like for like.  A stage 1+ tune will have you to 3.0s and 7.0s to 60/100mph. 
 
 

Just need to find one without the daft 20” wheels!


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Save yourself the money and get a secondhand pre OPF car. 
 
Running costs are extremely reasonable.  7th gear is longer which helps on longer runs, tyres are similar cost, Audi will price match local garages for servicing etc etc.  And strong residuals also make up for a lot so it probably wouldn’t end up costing any more than a Golf R.  
 
I loved my Golf R and still think it’s the best daily I’ve had.  But an RS3/TTRS really is a step up, and so it should be for the additional cost.  

Brakes are quite a bit more expensive though but that said, even with some hard daily use but no trackdays, my discs and pads lasted four years.


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21 hours ago, Doc83 said:

Save yourself the money and get a secondhand pre OPF car. 
 

Running costs are extremely reasonable.  7th gear is longer which helps on longer runs, tyres are similar cost, Audi will price match local garages for servicing etc etc.  And strong residuals also make up for a lot so it probably wouldn’t end up costing any more than a Golf R.  
 

I loved my Golf R and still think it’s the best daily I’ve had.  But an RS3/TTRS really is a step up, and so it should be for the additional cost.  

Completely agree wifh the a above

 

Ive had both pfl and fl, the facelift is a much better ride and the handling is alot different and better than the pfl

 

The only thing my pfl had over my fl was the noise, they sound amazing. Neither cars felt that quick untill i got a remap on the fl. Complete animal now

 

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Had my FL (2018) RS3 since March...

 

Golf R is probably better value for money, but all is forgotten as soon as you hear the sound of the Audi 5 cylinder - the sports exhaust is a 'must'. For me the pre FL RS3 wasn't a big enough step up over an R in terms of power and tech, hence I choose the FL.

 

Sure, there's a new RS3 just round the corner but it won't be massively faster and it'll start at £50k, so probably cost £55k by the time you've added a couple of nice options.

 

 

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I had an 8P RS3 for 3 years and loved it.
Also had the 8V when it came out in 2015 and loved that even more, sold it in 17 for a FL G7.5R because I’d always liked the Golf.
Had the R for 6 months then was offered a deal on the new FL RS3 that meant 5K off list.
Had the FL RS3 since then and I’m seriously wondering what could ever replace it, as it does everything so well as a daily driver.

Did look at a TCR Golf earlier this year but it didn’t have the event factor the RS3 has.
The Daza 2.5 is such a superb engine and responds very well to some light fettling/mods.

Couple this with some choice suspension / brake / tyre change mods and it’s damn near perfect.


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I have been having thoughts about changing to a FL RS3  , I couldn't decide between saloon or fastback but owing to hobbies requiring load space the FB was really the only option

I also toyed with the idea of A45s but don't like the styling and I got the R instead of an A45 because of the harsh ride

In the end I have decided I would gain very little over the R for another £30K so have finally decided to go stage 1 and keep the R

Out of interest a standard RS3 is cheaper to insure than a tuned R by about £60 for me

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The FL RS3 definitely seems the way to go....maybe next year. I’ll want low miles and decent spec so hopefully in 6-12 month I should be able to source one for reasonable money.

I must try one in conjunction with A45S and M2 Comp and decide from there.🤔

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17 hours ago, Msportman said:

The FL RS3 definitely seems the way to go....maybe next year. I’ll want low miles and decent spec so hopefully in 6-12 month I should be able to source one for reasonable money.

I must try one in conjunction with A45S and M2 Comp and decide from there.🤔

Yes for sure the FL is the way forward. I also looked at the M2 earlier in the year and had a couple of test drives almost pulled the trigger on one in March but on the way back from test drive the Rs3 got a little love tap in the rear from a careless driver which stalled the deal then COVID hit & it didn’t happen, probably a blessing in disguise really as I don’t think it would’ve suited my driving style in the long run (I.E I’m shit and like AWD) 😂

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The FL RS3 feels totally different to drive, just changed to an FL RS3 from Mk7 R. Its completely different to drive and in its handling. The R is such a hoot to drive, and lively is the best description I have heard compare to the FL RS3. The RS3 seems to just grip the tarmac and go, its almost glued down in comparison. So yes I understand the "numb" comments on its handling however I dont agree that its the right description or accurate. I went for a blast out in it for pleasure on the weekend and its almost sticking two fingers up at you asking if that's all you have got. Its flat, literally, on a roundabout or fast bend, well in other cars its a slow bend, takes off like a scalded cat but in the most locked to the road solid way. Just starting to get used to it but it still feels like I shouldn't be driving it, its almost like I am joyriding in someone elses sports car. 

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well the weekend i spoke to few RS3 owners as i had shown some interest in buying a FL next year (maybe), they all seemed to say i'd regret it? Bit confused, i do find myself every other day keep looking at them on car sales sites, i was hoping maybe with the brand spanking new one coming out it will help with prices on the version before? We'll have to wait and see i guess. 

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well the weekend i spoke to few RS3 owners as i had shown some interest in buying a FL next year (maybe), they all seemed to say i'd regret it? Bit confused, i do find myself every other day keep looking at them on car sales sites, i was hoping maybe with the brand spanking new one coming out it will help with prices on the version before? We'll have to wait and see i guess. 

Why would you regret it? Did they not explain why?

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16 hours ago, Meercat said:

The FL RS3 feels totally different to drive, just changed to an FL RS3 from Mk7 R. Its completely different to drive and in its handling. The R is such a hoot to drive, and lively is the best description I have heard compare to the FL RS3. The RS3 seems to just grip the tarmac and go, its almost glued down in comparison. So yes I understand the "numb" comments on its handling however I dont agree that its the right description or accurate. I went for a blast out in it for pleasure on the weekend and its almost sticking two fingers up at you asking if that's all you have got. Its flat, literally, on a roundabout or fast bend, well in other cars its a slow bend, takes off like a scalded cat but in the most locked to the road solid way. Just starting to get used to it but it still feels like I shouldn't be driving it, its almost like I am joyriding in someone elses sports car. 

Another R was always gonna be the plan with me but the mk8 has destroyed my planned purchase. The touchscreen lunacy has put paid to that idea so I'm scratching my head furiously to think what I might be interested in. It's a few years since I've driven an RS3 and was utterly underwhelmed by it. It was on an Audi trackday and prob suffered massively by driving R8 and RS6 the same day lol. But I found it horrifically heavy-nosed compared to my mk7 R and was glad I'd bought the R. How are the FL RS3s in this respect? Some positive comments on here, is it now the equal of the R handling-wise?

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I had an R 7.5 for just over 3 years. Was tempted by a RS3 Sport Edition saloon on a 69 plate so recently purchased. Very impressed tbh and although post WLTP, with the RS sports exhaust still sounds good especially with gearbox in sport mode. 

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