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Revo - Stage 1 - 2019 Golf R Mk7.5 - should I?!

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1 hour ago, Simonjh88 said:

 

Maybe... it was QuattroTech in St Ives that I used.

I know when QT remapped mine in the past they took the cars out and did some data logging, checked for codes etc. 

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Having a browse of the tinterweb this evening, there are numerous posts where people recommend or suggest doing the DSG reset once a year, or when a power/torque increase has been completed so that the gearbox can learn correctly. If I get up early enough tomorrow, I might give it a go with my OBD11, if not it can wait until next week.... but it sounds like that might be a solution.

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6 minutes ago, Simonjh88 said:

Having a browse of the tinterweb this evening, there are numerous posts where people recommend or suggest doing the DSG reset once a year, or when a power/torque increase has been completed so that the gearbox can learn correctly. If I get up early enough tomorrow, I might give it a go with my OBD11, if not it can wait until next week.... but it sounds like that might be a solution.

 

Good luck with it - be interested to know what difference it makes

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On 08/04/2021 at 16:56, marshy said:


The only thing with reverting back to standard engine software is that Revo don’t actually store your original map, Revo have a Revo standard map which performs similar to a standard car if that makes sense.



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little bit put off the whole remap thing regarding that. 

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little bit put off the whole remap thing regarding that. 

Most tuners do this nowadays.
They just flash your car and in the unlikely event you want to go back to stock you get a stock file but not the original one that was on your car.
As a driver I doubt you’d notice the difference though.


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1 minute ago, marshy said:


Most tuners do this nowadays.
They just flash your car and in the unlikely event you want to go back to stock you get a stock file but not the original one that was on your car.
As a driver I doubt you’d notice the difference though.


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ah ok, maybe i read it the wrong way lol 

but on some of the stuff posted, hearing the small issues with revo stuff has put me off abit with them.....i think it's the DSG part, but it does say they offer DSG on mk7 according to website. i know a place about 1hr n half that do TVS as well.....but always felt or maybe what i've wanted is the same company that does the ECU tune as well as the TCU 

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3 minutes ago, r600_clubsport said:


ah ok, maybe i read it the wrong way lol 

but on some of the stuff posted, hearing the small issues with revo stuff has put me off abit with them.....i think it's the DSG part, but it does say they offer DSG on mk7 according to website. i know a place about 1hr n half that do TVS as well.....but always felt or maybe what i've wanted is the same company that does the ECU tune as well as the TCU 

 

I felt that initially but the consensus is that TVS do a better job - seem to remember someone posting that Revo have been after a DSG specialist for ages to no avail.

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7 minutes ago, r600_clubsport said:


ah ok, maybe i read it the wrong way lol 

but on some of the stuff posted, hearing the small issues with revo stuff has put me off abit with them.....i think it's the DSG part, but it does say they offer DSG on mk7 according to website. i know a place about 1hr n half that do TVS as well.....but always felt or maybe what i've wanted is the same company that does the ECU tune as well as the TCU 

 

I've been meaning to update the post, but I have been working all day. 

 

I was called by QuattroTech this morning after I sent a video yesterday of my slow gear changes. They suggested I pop it in to, essentially, have a DSG reset. I said that I was going to do this anyway with my OBD11, but as I struggled to find it.... and the fact they offered to do it, I took it there at around midday. The process took ~5 minutes and it is VERY different to how it behaved AFTER the Revo tune. I was told to drive it hard, and I did a few laps and went the longer way home and it is definitely better.

 

*edit - forgot to actually give proper detail....sorry.....to confirm the difference is a lot better than it was post-tune and so I am much happier at the moment. Most of the gear changes were fairly standard and it wasn't doing any slow gear changes, none that concerned me anyway.

 

Not quite what it was BEFORE my tune, but then again, I haven't covered that many miles today. The car hasn't moved since I returned home, so I've probably done about 20ish miles since the reset.

 

I have a longish trip tomorrow and so I'm hoping that will help. They did say that it is constantly learning so I will see how it goes over the next week.

 

If it doesn't get any better, and doesn't get close to what it was before the tune, then I shall have a refund for the tune, another DSG reset and leave it at that. I may then consider the TVS TCU and ECU tune at another time.

 

I will update you all next week! Thanks for all your advice and guidance.

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13 minutes ago, Simonjh88 said:

 

I've been meaning to update the post, but I have been working all day. 

 

I was called by QuattroTech this morning after I sent a video yesterday of my slow gear changes. They suggested I pop it in to, essentially, have a DSG reset. I said that I was going to do this anyway with my OBD11, but as I struggled to find it.... and the fact they offered to do it, I took it there at around midday. The process took ~5 minutes and it is VERY different to how it behaved AFTER the Revo tune. I was told to drive it hard, and I did a few laps and went the longer way home and it is definitely better.

 

*edit - forgot to actually give proper detail....sorry.....to confirm the difference is a lot better than it was post-tune and so I am much happier at the moment. Most of the gear changes were fairly standard and it wasn't doing any slow gear changes, none that concerned me anyway.

 

Not quite what it was BEFORE my tune, but then again, I haven't covered that many miles today. The car hasn't moved since I returned home, so I've probably done about 20ish miles since the reset.

 

I have a longish trip tomorrow and so I'm hoping that will help. They did say that it is constantly learning so I will see how it goes over the next week.

 

If it doesn't get any better, and doesn't get close to what it was before the tune, then I shall have a refund for the tune, another DSG reset and leave it at that. I may then consider the TVS TCU and ECU tune at another time.

 

I will update you all next week! Thanks for all your advice and guidance.

 

Interesting to see how much difference it has made. Does anyone know if a DSG reset is done when a TVS tune is put on?

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hope it all works out mate, least the offer to get refund/reset is there, heard nothing but positive stuff with quattro tech.

going back on what i said......guess i could get the TVS ECU tune if i want the DSG? just means travelling abit

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1 minute ago, Clarkie48 said:

Should a DSG reset not be standard practice one a remap has been applied.Also a proper road test?

 

It sounds like it should be. From the videos I watched about doing a DSG reset, the guys doing it suggest doing it once a year to get rid of any lumpiness or when having a performance tune. The gearbox needs to adjust and re-learn based on the new power and torque it has.

 

It makes sense and from the posts on here, and from watching the videos....it seemed like this would have been the solution. So far, from the short drive earlier, it's A LOT better.... still not as it was, but it needs more time/miles.

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3 minutes ago, Simonjh88 said:

 

It sounds like it should be. From the videos I watched about doing a DSG reset, the guys doing it suggest doing it once a year to get rid of any lumpiness or when having a performance tune. The gearbox needs to adjust and re-learn based on the new power and torque it has.

 

It makes sense and from the posts on here, and from watching the videos....it seemed like this would have been the solution. So far, from the short drive earlier, it's A LOT better.... still not as it was, but it needs more time/miles.


I hope it gets better the more you drive it and you don’t have any more problems.

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On 19/03/2021 at 11:06, Simonjh88 said:

 

No egg sucking at all. This is the first car like this, with this calibre of performance, I've owned so it's good to hear what others do! 

 

I do let the car warm up to 85+ degrees before being more heavy footed, but never fully flat to the floor until it's mid-late 90s.

I don't often spend the last few miles letting the car cool down, but if I have been very spirited, then I do try to 😄 

Revving - nope, whilst I like to hear my car and it has certainly got louder over the last year... I'm 32 years old, so no heavy stationary revving for me! 

I have a service plan with VW, so it will get regular love. Haldex, DSG and filter swaps (whatever filters those are!?).... that can be given some love by QuattroTech I reckon. 

 

Launches isn't something I do often, and certainly don't do repeated ones.

Gear changes.... I mostly drive it in manual mode to be honest, so manage the gears myself. It does probably result in increased number of gear changes, but I don't abuse the gearbox I don't think.

 

I can't ride the clutch, as it's a DSG... 😄

 

 

I'm questioning like you, but on balance I think that I probably won't.

 

The car is fast enough on the road for me as it is. Any more performance available, and I'll just use it, and I've already got 6 points on my licence. I guess I could do with a bit more torque, as never got used to less having come from a 535d. I also suspect that the stock car is rather more than 306bhp. I saw someone YT vid where they did a pre and post APR dyno. Stock came out at 335bhp and Stage 1 was 360ish. I think maybe I'll dyno it and see what's what.

 

I guess I've got to a stage in life where I have begun to question levels of bhp in road cars, as well as the cost. For example BMW 340i vs M3. Do you really need 500bhp at £30k more in the M3 over the already not slow 340i? I guess some think that important, but I don't personally feel that I have to have the fastest car on the road. Sure the M3 is a sportier drive, but on the public highway is that really relevant?

 

Having said all that, if I decide like getting a "new" car, then maybe a remap will satisfy that. Otherwise, personally (and of course it is all personal), 300+bhp in a small estate is more than enough for me. 

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