mahalo Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Thought it might be an idea to start a topic about some little gremlins that I have come across so far in case anyone has encountered the same. Car charging via Qi charger underneath 2 USB sockets. There are two/three issues so far with this .. 1. VW have installed an NFC chip in the same location as the Qi charging pad so that mobile key software can read the mobile key if your phone supports this feature (feature currently only supported on Android) VW are working on the IOS version. Apple use NFC to trigger tags which apps can then autostart on. The only app that uses these triggers on my Iphone is Apple Pay so every time you put the Iphone onto the charging pad up springs the Credit Card in the Apple wallet associated with Apple Pay with the double click to pay screen. You can swipe up to minimise the screen but you have to do this every time you place the Iphone on the pad. Apparently the same problem exists on other car manufacturer Qi charging pads that put their NFC chip there (Mercedes, BMW etc) although I don't get the problem on my G30 530E. 2. The Qi charging pad does not appear to like my Tech21 Iphone case - every other Qi charger I have (and I have a lot) is fine and will charge no problems. The one in the Golf R does not and the only way to get it to charge would appear to be to take the case off the Iphone. 3. The car comes complete with a digital credit card valet key if you go for the Digital key option but the only way this can be enabled is if you have a valid mobile key on your smartphone and as the IOS version is not yet released this key is useless for Iphone users until this occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, mahalo said: Thought it might be an idea to start a topic about some little gremlins that I have come across so far in case anyone has encountered the same. Car charging via Qi charger underneath 2 USB sockets. There are two/three issues so far with this .. 1. VW have installed an NFC chip in the same location as the Qi charging pad so that mobile key software can read the mobile key if your phone supports this feature (feature currently only supported on Android) VW are working on the IOS version. Apple use NFC to trigger tags which apps can then autostart on. The only app that uses these triggers on my Iphone is Apple Pay so every time you put the Iphone onto the charging pad up springs the Credit Card in the Apple wallet associated with Apple Pay with the double click to pay screen. You can swipe up to minimise the screen but you have to do this every time you place the Iphone on the pad. Apparently the same problem exists on other car manufacturer Qi charging pads that put their NFC chip there (Mercedes, BMW etc) although I don't get the problem on my G30 530E. 2. The Qi charging pad does not appear to like my Tech21 Iphone case - every other Qi charger I have (and I have a lot) is fine and will charge no problems. The one in the Golf R does not and the only way to get it to charge would appear to be to take the case off the Iphone. 3. The car comes complete with a digital credit card valet key if you go for the Digital key option but the only way this can be enabled is if you have a valid mobile key on your smartphone and as the IOS version is not yet released this key is useless for Iphone users until this occurs. Assume number 1 on your list in connection to the digital key option? Not an option I specced. 2. That’s a pain for you. I have an iPhone with a genuine Apple silicone case and I don’t get any issue with that when using the Qi charging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevintaper1 Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Buy an android phone and turn of nfc Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahalo Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Yep I specced Digital Key which means that the car is equipped with NFC so that the Mobile Key can work - I think it also means I get a couple of extra feature on We-Connect. Unfortunately, until VW release support for IOS then this is all useless. I have some barely used standard Apple cases such as the leather one and the silicone one but the protection offered by the Tech21 case is in a different league to the standard Apple cases. The VW Qi charger in the Golf R is the only one that exhibits this inability to charge - I have Qi charger in both my BMWs no problem there, Apple Qi chargers no problem plus quite a few other Qi chargers and all work fine with the Tech21 case. I don't really want to switch to Android as I have mostly Apple tech. Unfortunately you cannot switch off NFC on IOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlo Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 What a pain that is. My iPhone 12 charges fine in its case. I have also used it to charge my Samsung S10 work phone with no issues. only issues I have I have is once the apple CarPlay was blank but it was working (as in playing music). Oh and my alarm went off randomly twice but according to the alert on the app it was because I was stood next to it for quite a while (neighbour was looking round to with me) and the movement notification I’m putting down to an extremely windy night we had where I live 🤷🏻♂️😂 Jordi93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrex Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 Admittedly the daily comments on the golf mk8 Facebook pages detailing bugs and issues are worrying me a bit. I wonder if they’ll eventually illuminate the temp and volume sliders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlo Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Wrex said: Admittedly the daily comments on the golf mk8 Facebook pages detailing bugs and issues are worrying me a bit. I wonder if they’ll eventually illuminate the temp and volume sliders I’m not on Facebook. What are the issues? Booth11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Wrex said: Admittedly the daily comments on the golf mk8 Facebook pages detailing bugs and issues are worrying me a bit. I wonder if they’ll eventually illuminate the temp and volume sliders I don’t do Facebook car groups. Are these comments predominantly from Golf owners with earlier builds with the earlier software and hardware? I think quite a lot of the earliest issues have been resolved with the latest hardware (version D) and software (version 1788), probably not all, but many of them. Just be interesting to know. As the Golf R has come later than the base mk8s and some of the earliest GTIs, they’ll benefit from the later hardware/software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrex Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, Booth11 said: I don’t do Facebook car groups. Are these comments predominantly from Golf owners with earlier builds with the earlier software and hardware? I think quite a lot of the earliest issues have been resolved with the latest hardware (version D) and software (version 1788), probably not all, but many of them. Just be interesting to know. As the Golf R has come later than the base mk8s and some of the earliest GTIs, they’ll benefit from the later hardware/software. Seems to be various ones. But none from anyone with an R , so perhaps it’s just the early ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wrex said: Seems to be various ones. But none from anyone with an R , so perhaps it’s just the early ones Hopefully, but definitely any Rs to come will have that later version at least, if not later updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahalo Posted April 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 I think it is fair to say that the software VW have implemented to control the car systems via the infotainment system is not the best ... It is like they have employed software designers who have avoided going on any user interface design courses. Simple things like putting the windscreen wipers in service position require dipping into the menus to find it and on startup there is a delay whilst the system boots up, so something that you can do easily on other cars takes a lot more effort on the Golf. I had a software update yesterday come through which updated the system quickly. Wrex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrex Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Booth11 said: Hopefully, but definitely any Rs to come will have that later version at least, if not later updates. There doesn’t seem to be anyone who has taken delivery on here saying they’re having the issues mentioned on Facebook- front assit/parking sensors etc warnings all the time. Darlo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wrex said: There doesn’t seem to be anyone who has taken delivery on here saying they’re having the issues mentioned on Facebook- front assit/parking sensors etc warnings all the time. That bodes well then. I’ve not had any of those warnings reported elsewhere. I’ve had nothing more than a slow screen on a few occasions and a missing graphic which reappeared after a reset of the system (press and hold on/off button for 20/30 secs until the infotainment R logo splash screen appears). I expected some errors like those reported but pleased to say it’s not happened. Still, it’s early days! 😁 Wrex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrex Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 53 minutes ago, Booth11 said: That bodes well then. I’ve not had any of those warnings reported elsewhere. I’ve had nothing more than a slow screen on a few occasions and a missing graphic which reappeared after a reset of the system (press and hold on/off button for 20/30 secs until the infotainment R logo splash screen appears). I expected some errors like those reported but pleased to say it’s not happened. Still, it’s early days! 😁 These seem to be the common ones that a lot of people are posting everyday. Oh and a GTi that went on fire 😶 Someone has rejected 2 GTIs one build in February because of faults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 I feel for anyone suffering with such problems to the point they have to reject a car. I know that some cars have had steering wheels and steering modules replaced to address certain issues. It really shouldn’t happen but then even early 7Rs had their share of teething issues. As said though, I think the R coming a later in the timeline has been beneficial in some of those early issues being addressed through later software and hardware and upgraded parts. Your wise to be cautious but it’s worth taking note of what R owners are reporting and what they are not reporting as an indication of things to come. And if there’s one upside to your car coming later than many, it surely must be that it will have the benefit of VW having ironed out some of those teething issues and a hopefully glitch free or at least much less glitchy system than those early GTIs. Wrex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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