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On 17/01/2023 at 23:12, dopper99 said:

As it was cold this morning (about -6 Deg c) all the warning bongs re-appeared again.

 

Front parking sensors come on when pulling off

Front Assist Not Available

Dynamic sign assist failed. Clean windscreen

 

Only seems to do it when temp is below 5-6 deg C.

 

Booked in next week to get it looked at. Knowing my luck it will be warmer, so no bongs will appear.


I had a front assist bong this morning (front assist, limited availability) and yesterday but both times it disappeared by itself after a few mins driving, I think once bits of the layer of ice encasing the car had melted.  

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1 hour ago, Booth11 said:


I had a front assist bong this morning and yesterday but both times it disappeared by itself after a few mins driving, I think once bits of the layer of ice encasing the car had melted.  

I still get them here at 32 degrees Celsius and 74% humidity. Everyday.  Not sure there is a correlation between weather and this problem.  It’s just a right beggar if a thing which they need to fix in a premium car at this price point…

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22 hours ago, mpv said:

I still get them here at 32 degrees Celsius and 74% humidity. Everyday.  Not sure there is a correlation between weather and this problem.  It’s just a right beggar if a thing which they need to fix in a premium car at this price point…


Yes I had a spell of errors/bongs over a week last summer when it was really hot here in UK.  Since then nothing, but just this last couple days in sub zero temps I’ve had the front assist limited availability error pop up, but shortlived.  The car has had a coating of ice all over it including the front radar so just guessing that might have had an effect.  But don’t know why in hot weather unless heat building etc - no idea though, just wild guesses and I’m sure it’s likely more complex that than but very hot weather and very cold weather seems to bring them on in my car.  

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Although a few people have a similar issue with front assist failing etc…..

 

…so it seems common issue ……. glad I’ve got mine booked in to get it looked at to “remind” VW there is still a problem. You’d think it would be sorted by now as the MK8 has been out over 2 years. 
 

If we don’t take our cars in to be looked at, VW don’t think there is any problems. 🙂 

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21 hours ago, Booth11 said:


Yes I had a spell of errors/bongs over a week last summer when it was really hot here in UK.  Since then nothing, but just this last couple days in sub zero temps I’ve had the front assist limited availability error pop up, but shortlived.  The car has had a coating of ice all over it including the front radar so just guessing that might have had an effect.  But don’t know why in hot weather unless heat building etc - no idea though, just wild guesses and I’m sure it’s likely more complex that than but very hot weather and very cold weather seems to bring them on in my car.  

Hi Rebecca, Mine is more related to the position of the steering wheel, and to a lesser extent where I am holding it. When the bottom flat part of the wheel is at 10 o clock, it pings. If I am holding the wheel at the point where it flattens out at the bottom, it pings.  So maybe it’s both a steering wheel issue, and/or a sensor/climate issue? I’m back to the dealer in coming weeks or months, as they are booked solid it seems. 

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I gotta say, the dealer went above and beyond today.

 

When I picked up the car it looked better than ever, but really they did a total paint correction and ceramic coated it afterwards 😮 Excellent service, I would let them scratch my car in their carwash again any time!

 

Just kidding, I'm hanging a huge 'DO NOT WASH' flyer from the rear view mirror next time it goes into any others' hands.

 

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2 hours ago, dopper99 said:

Although a few people have a similar issue with front assist failing etc…..

 

…so it seems common issue ……. glad I’ve got mine booked in to get it looked at to “remind” VW there is still a problem. You’d think it would be sorted by now as the MK8 has been out over 2 years. 
 

If we don’t take our cars in to be looked at, VW don’t think there is any problems. 🙂 


Let us know how you get on Andy.  
 

I think VW know full well there are problems, I just don’t think they have a solution for some of them. 

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1 hour ago, AlmostR said:

I gotta say, the dealer went above and beyond today.

 

When I picked up the car it looked better than ever, but really they did a total paint correction and ceramic coated it afterwards 😮 Excellent service, I would let them scratch my car in their carwash again any time!

 

Just kidding, I'm hanging a huge 'DO NOT WASH' flyer from the rear view mirror next time it goes into any others' hands.

 


Glad for you that it’s a good outcome from a poor situation. 
 

 

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On 08/01/2023 at 19:31, mpv said:

Not yet, my dealer wants to have another look but has been closed for the summer holidays. Will keep you posted. 

Anything yet from the dealer?

The one the main attraction I was looking at the R20 Golf. I wonder if others have seen any signs of premature wear or a fault in the leather??🤔

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Anything yet from the dealer?
The one the main attraction I was looking at the R20 Golf. I wonder if others have seen any signs of premature wear or a fault in the leather??

Am sitting at the dealer right now… stay tuned for the outcome.


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7 hours ago, Msportman said:

I wonder if others have seen any signs of premature wear or a fault in the leather??🤔


Mine has the leather and car will be 2 years old in March and currently at 14k miles.  No signs of premature wear at all, it’s wearing very well, no rubbing or anything like that.  I tend to think the issue on @mpv’s might be a manufacturing fault , but be interesting to see what the dealership/VW say about it, and hear from others with leather. 

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31 minutes ago, Booth11 said:


Mine has the leather and car will be 2 years old in March and currently at 14k miles.  No signs of premature wear at all, it’s wearing very well, no rubbing or anything like that.  I tend to think the issue on @mpv’s might be a manufacturing fault , but be interesting to see what the dealership/VW say about it, and hear from others with leather. 

Hi @Booth11  just back from the dealer with an omnibus of information on this and other faults being discussed here.  The leather is a manufacturing fault, and photos were taken, and only VAG can authorise a replacement, but the assessor (he is an apparently rare accredited Master VW tech) said this will not be a problem, and he has not seen one like this, particularly on Nappa.

 

Regarding the travel assist and emergency SOS error.  He plugged in the GETEC laptop, and on cars without over the air updates like those in Australia, the bonnet must be lifted to open the firewall, along with turning off the auto light switch.  He found the error, its frequency, the time date and speed of the car when it occurred, and the operating mode etc.  It points to steering wheel analysis, so he opened that, and he did a circumference check of the sensors int he wheel by running his hand around it.  This gave a scrolling real time score out of a hundred, and it shows the relative strength of the sensor and its detection rate.  It dipped to almost zero at the precise point I have spoken of here, ie where the flat portion of the wheel begins on the bottom left.  He did this with the other hand, and then two hands (the getec shows how many hands are on the wheel and at what degree/arc).  The alternative hand showed the same low sensor issue at the same point and the device then issued a solution code of a new wheel.  For the Golf R, its now 3 weeks from Germany.  This same fault is now appearing on the Tiguan R, as it has on multiple Mk8 GTI’s.  The seat, thats another matter and a bit of a rare one and they will advise at the time of the steering wheel fitment.  They are thinking a new seat squab (base) is a certainty. 

 

Ironically, today I had the below error as well, and this showed on the getec as the first in kind for this fault for my car.  This arises from ‘complex traffic and operating conditions where the traffic camera is unable to deconflict opposing or difficult circumstances’.  Or in other words, it was overwhelmed with data, and deadset got confused by what it detected.  If this happens a second time the VW fix is to replace the windscreen mounted camera, but VW tell me it is a very rare one (? is it, friends?) and I will wait and see if it replicates. At the time I was at a facility where there is laser and radar based external security.  So this would appear to be not unexpected.  The advice is to wait and if it replicates, a new camera will be supplied and installed. 

 

Of interest, he said the showroom retain on my car (aus spec full fruit PP, HUD etc etc) is now $10kAUD above retail, and is an 18 month wait. Mine is the only one this dealer (a large one in the Greater Brisbane area) has sold, and they still have the same showroom demonstrator car that have had for 8 months.  They just can’t get them. 

 

I am happy with the dealer response.  I was asked by the receptionist to make a booking, for late February at the earliest.  I politely declined, and even more politely advised them I did not sort of kind of intend leaving until I knew the car was safe to drive, and let them know how much money I had spent with them to purchase the car.  That said, I was well looked after, and had full vision and explanation of the diagnosis which was totally transparent.  I am well satisfied for now.  Hope this information helps all those here who have been frustrated by this glitch with an otherwise well formed unbeatable car to drive!  Regards, mpv

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22 minutes ago, mpv said:

the VW fix is to replace the windscreen mounted camera

It actually seems like a legitimate warning, if you were in EM rich environment.
 
Why would they change the camera for a radar fault ?
Front Assist is radar based (electro magnetic) not camera (optical)
 
I’d hold off and check before doing so
windshield camera required calibration
that many dealer don’t really know how to do yet
 
 
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19 minutes ago, AHG said:
 
It actually seems like a legitimate warning, if you were in EM rich environment.
 
Why would they change the camera for a radar fault ?
Front Assist is radar based (electro magnetic) not camera (optical)
 
I’d hold off and check before doing so
windshield camera required calibration
that many dealer don’t really know how to do yet
 
 

I get your thinking, but saw that myself on their diagnostic thingy. It’s related to pedestrian, cyclist, and vehicle detection. 

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