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8 hours ago, AHG said:

This wheel is capacitive

it doesn’t need steering input

just to sense your palm on it

 

And if that was the issue

it would cry about “hands on wheel”

not “emergency assist unavailable”

or whatever it is saying

 

and finally

you master tech is wrong a third time

in that the car doesn’t jerk the wheel

in order or wake you

it gives out a 0.1sec intense brake

it does it 2-3 times

and if nothing happens

it slows down gradually to a halt

(no emergency brake)

 

Car has issues, no doubt,

but many techs are making stuff up.

which doesn’t add confidence:-)

 

An honest tech would tell you the truth,

which is:

”I haven’t the faintest idea, nada,

that’s what the computer told me to do”

 

As per Saturday, it just strengthens the idea it is software related. Maybe a line of code accidentally add the day of the week, instead of some other signal, to a calculation 🙂

Agree, if was simply that that the steering wheel was failing to detect you holding it, it would constanly ping up "take over stearing" when the lane assist is active (which is always active unless you turn it off or have OBD coded it to be off) and then jerk the breaks (which would be very dangerous indeed!!!)

 

My expirance of dealers is they range from making things up they dont fully understand to blatantly lying to try and get rid of you.

 

When they changed the steering wheel on mine months ago and messed up the button mapping so i couldnt increase/decrease acc by 1mph with soft touch any more my dealer insisted to my face "thats how it works now, nobody wants to increase/decrease acc by less than 5mph"

 

Only after confirming that was not the case (thanks to this forum) and then basically telling them they were talking complete s**t did they look again and reset a module.

 

I, personaly, dont take anything they say now on face value as they often talk complete rubbish due to a complete lack of knowledge.

 

P.S, my errors have happened everyday of the week so its not as simple as that i am afraid.

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, jason1972 said:

if was simply that that the steering wheel was failing to detect you holding it, it would constanly ping up "take over stearing" when the lane assist is active

Sorry I don't think am been clear… I’m talking about when ACC/TA is engaged where the car drive and steers for you… if you don’t put a steering input the car should warn you “take over steering” and jerk the brakes,


With my car if I engage AcC/TA and travel assist unavailable error pops up it cancels /stops my AcC and I have to take over

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10 minutes ago, Dannybear83 said:

Sorry I don't think am been clear… I’m talking about when ACC/TA is engaged where the car drive and steers for you… if you don’t put a steering input the car should warn you “take over steering” and jerk the brakes,


With my car if I engage AcC/TA and travel assist unavailable error pops up it cancels /stops my AcC and I have to take over

The pint though is this: this is a premium car at a premium price point. Software errors like this after 2years in the market are breathtakingly unforgivable,

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47 minutes ago, mpv said:

The pint though is this: this is a premium car at a premium price point. Software errors like this after 2years in the market are breathtakingly unforgivable,


I doubt anyone will disagree with you on that @mpv.  

 

The differing experiences of mk8 owners is one of the very frustrating things I think, with some owners getting very few of these errors, or just the occasional episode(s); but others getting them near on constantly or daily, and for the latter who can blame those owners for getting rid especially as there seems no end in sight.  I guess there’s also subjective tolerance levels of owners too, although I don’t think even the most tolerant person would stand a constant tirade of errors/pings every time they drive the car!  But that tolerance might be a little different if it’s just the odd seemingly random warning now and then.   
 

There are legitimate warnings as has been discussed recently but as @jason1972 said a couple days ago, the erroneous errors just serve to breed and embed a mistrust of those valid warnings and thus the whole system.  

VW really dropped the ball on this and need to get their act together.  


 


 

 

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2 hours ago, Dannybear83 said:

Sorry I don't think am been clear… I’m talking about when ACC/TA is engaged where the car drive and steers for you… if you don’t put a steering input the car should warn you “take over steering” and jerk the brakes,


With my car if I engage AcC/TA and travel assist unavailable error pops up it cancels /stops my AcC and I have to take over

Sorry @Dannybear83, thinking about it again, i might be wrong with what i said.

 

Allthough the Lane Assist is always active (unless turned off) and always gives the steering "corrections" i think you are right in that it will only give the "take over steering" error when it doesnt dectect your hand on the steering when when acc is active?

 

When mine has been pinging i havnt tried turning on the acc, i will give acc a go today (if i get the errors) and see if it acts the same 

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I think VW know they dropped the ball. Hence  why Cariad are working directly with chip and system builders. There needs to be better integration and this will probably arrive in time (not for current owners 😉). Until then if you want to take the load off of your overworked CPU then turn some stuff off. 

We have done this and our gremlin rate seems fairly low.

We also have the benefit of driving the car rather than the car driving us as it were.

The feel of that clever rear diff in the twisties is amazing. 

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On 03/01/2023 at 14:45, AHG said:

Congratulate me ...

I did a first infotainment restart today 🙂

 

alerts for all the assists being unavailable (Emergency, SOS, Maneuver, parking), then got a a yellow triangle and a message "go to shop",  while the infotainment turned off and on by itself, every other minute or so, and finally decided to stay off (black) for the remainder of the ride.

Quick question: did anyone else get the info screen turning off by itself to a black screen ?

 


So, this happened again today.

Exactly the same sequence, screen goes off and back on, every minute or two, does that 7-8 times, then dies out completely.

Reboot while going on/off didn’t work.

Did a second reboot when engine off (after parking it)

left for an hour (lunch) and when I came back it was fine.

 

the steering wheel left right thing, option A:

 

On 20/01/2023 at 06:34, AHG said:

A. Rotate steering wheel all the way left then all the way right
B. Turn engine off and then on again
C. Same as B + lock and unlock
D. Same as C + wait 10min in between
E. Reboot - Hold infotainment power button for 20sec

(preferably when parked, and/or engine is off)


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For the last 3 days I’ve had no volume from the stereo ( the volume control slider doesn’t even show anything on the screen when sliding), no front or rear parking sensors, no reverse camera, no rear traffic alert and no manoeuvre break and infotainment reboots. This is in addition to sos and travel assist errors that happen about 60 times on each journey. There’s a steering wheel been on back order for the last 2 months. 
 

Any idea how I can fix the stereo no volume and parking sensors?  What is the latest software? I’m on 1896 

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Try these

they May help for a while

 

1 hour ago, AHG said:

A. Rotate steering wheel all the way left then all the way right
B. Turn engine off and then on again
C. Same as B + lock and unlock
D. Same as C + wait 10min in between
E. Reboot - Hold infotainment power button for a full 20sec

(preferably when parked, and engine is turned off)

 

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1 minute ago, MJC1216 said:

Probably have more success trying this

 

You put your left leg in
Your left leg out
In, out, in, out
Shake it all about
You do the hokey cokey
And you turn around
That's what it's all about😂


I think that’s very similar to one of the actual VW procedures. 😁

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