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So with all going well i'll be picking up my new Golf R this Saturday (very excited!) and in preparation i'm trying to put together a list of items i'll need to was/detail the car.

The colour of the Golf is Indium 

Alloys are Black

 

So far my list looks like the following -

 

Pre Wash – Bilt Hamber Auto Foam

Alloys – Bilt Hamber Auto Wheels

Shampoo - Meguiars Gold Class

Bodywork – Bilt Hamber Korrosol

Polish?

Wax - Collinite No. 845 - Insulator Wax

Alloy protection?

Drying towels - Gyeon Silk Dryer towels

Wash Mitt - Wo-Wo lambswool

 

I'm currently missing a good car polish and some kind of alloy protection product. 

 

Does anyone have any recommendations on a good polish and alloy protection? Also feel free to modify my list with another product that you feel will work better or add anything that may also be beneficial. It's been a long long time since i last did any detailing so i'm a little out of the loop haha

 

Thanks

Huw

 

 

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Gyeon rim for the wheels,just make sure the wheels are clean before applying.It’s easier to apply with the wheels off.Polish wise it depends on how bad your paint is and how far you want to go and if your hand polishing or machine polishing.

 

Also just check which website your using for products that they have what your after to save on postage from buying from different sites.

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1 hour ago, Berty182 said:

So with all going well i'll be picking up my new Golf R this Saturday (very excited!) and in preparation i'm trying to put together a list of items i'll need to was/detail the car.

The colour of the Golf is Indium 

Alloys are Black

 

So far my list looks like the following -

 

Pre Wash – Bilt Hamber Auto Foam

Alloys – Bilt Hamber Auto Wheels

Shampoo - Meguiars Gold Class

Bodywork – Bilt Hamber Korrosol

Polish?

Wax - Collinite No. 845 - Insulator Wax

Alloy protection?

Drying towels - Gyeon Silk Dryer towels

Wash Mitt - Wo-Wo lambswool

 

I'm currently missing a good car polish and some kind of alloy protection product. 

 

Does anyone have any recommendations on a good polish and alloy protection? Also feel free to modify my list with another product that you feel will work better or add anything that may also be beneficial. It's been a long long time since i last did any detailing so i'm a little out of the loop haha

 

Thanks

Huw

 

 


Looks a good list Huw, some great products on there.  You might want to look at an alternative lambswool mott though as WoWo don’t appear to have any on their website atm, nor on Amazon.  
 

For wheels, if you’re looking for very durable and long lasting protection then a coating - As Clarkie says with the Gyeon Q2 RIM, but there’s also the likes of Gtechniq C5 Wheel Armour and CarPro DLUX amongst others.   They are all wheels off application as need time to cure in the dry.  If you’re looking for something more regular wheels on application then wheel sealants such as Poorboys are good but can be pita to buff off if the sun gets to it.  I’ve used standard sealants in the past such as Gtechniq C2v3 and Sonax BSD (Brilliant Shine Detailer) which are non wheel specific nano sealants but actually do a good job provided you apply regularly 4-6 weeks.  
 

For the polish, it could well depend on the condition of the paintwork and what level of correction is needed.  Also are you polishing by hand or with a machine polisher?  Something such as Meguiars Ultimate Compound is a good general purpose compound which has reasonable cut but is self refining so finishes down well.  Can be used by hand of machine, if you’re just looking for a single polish.  There are literally hundreds of polishes so it helps to know what the state of the paint is first.  

 

You might want to add a tar remover for the decontamination alongside your fallout/iron remover, especially buying a used car.   Auto smart Tardis is very good as is Gyeon Tar.  And possibly some clay or a clay mitt (you can use shampoo solution as a lubricant).

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With the polish will you be hoping to do some form of correction too or are you happy to use something with some fillers?  How are you applying?  What state is your paint in? 

 

Bilt Hambers Cleanser Polish is quite good but it has little abrasive properties, it does clean dirt out of the scratches to make them less visible as well as laying fillers over the top to mask light defects.  It's a good product and works well with the other BH products in your list.  Have you tried Collinite 845 in the past?  Asking as I bought some and was very disappointed with it in terms of application and overall finish it's probably one of the worst detailing products I've ever bought TBH.  Something like FinishKare 1000P or even Bilt Hamber Finis or Double Speed Wax are much better IME.   In fact, the CarLack twins (Complete and Longlife) work very well when finished with the FinishKare 1000P over the top to finish.  

 

But...it really does depend on what you want to achieve, what time/tools you have? 😊

 

For wheels I've been impressed by Poorboys wheel sealant.  Relatively cheap and a doddle to apply.  You could go down the ceramic route but depends on how comfortable with applying it. 

 

 

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As, recently, I also couldn't get a wowo lambswool mitt I got the DODO-juice one from here at £12.94 and it seems to be good.

 

https://www.detailedclean.co.uk/washing-and-drying/wash-mitts-sponges-and-bucket-sets/dodo-juice-tribble-mitt-1190

 

Once you get started you will soon need a larger garage to keep all the detailing stuff!!

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Thank you all very much for your detailed inputs! 

 

I haven't purchased any of the products so far, just getting a list together so I can see the state of the paint work first

 

@Clarkie48 @Booth11I have no experience with using a machine polisher so unfortunately i'll be doing everything by hand :cheesy: which I know is quite a tire sum job but worth it. Are machine polishers difficult to use? When I looked them up a few years ago I kept reading things about how careful you need to be with them?  In terms of the wheel protection i'd rather it be a wheels on job just to make my life a little easier :grin:. Funny you mentioned the WoWo mitt as when I went to their website after posting on here I couldn't find the item! 

 

@PenguinI haven't actually used Collinite 845 before just heard it's very good. The poor finish and application you mentioned is a little concerning especially since i'm doing it all by hand. I'll definitely look in to the products you mentioned 

 

@NJS Thanks for the mitt recommendation I'll check that one out as the one I mentioned doesn't seem to be available anywhere. I've got an old book cupboard in my garage in preparation for the products haha

 

Is there a preferred website to use to buy cleaning products from? I'm hoping to be able to get the bulk of the products from one website to save on postage :D 

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26 minutes ago, Berty182 said:

Thank you all very much for your detailed inputs! 

 

I haven't purchased any of the products so far, just getting a list together so I can see the state of the paint work first

 

@Clarkie48 @Booth11I have no experience with using a machine polisher so unfortunately i'll be doing everything by hand :cheesy: which I know is quite a tire sum job but worth it. Are machine polishers difficult to use? When I looked them up a few years ago I kept reading things about how careful you need to be with them?  In terms of the wheel protection i'd rather it be a wheels on job just to make my life a little easier :grin:. Funny you mentioned the WoWo mitt as when I went to their website after posting on here I couldn't find the item! 

 

@PenguinI haven't actually used Collinite 845 before just heard it's very good. The poor finish and application you mentioned is a little concerning especially since i'm doing it all by hand. I'll definitely look in to the products you mentioned 

 

@NJS Thanks for the mitt recommendation I'll check that one out as the one I mentioned doesn't seem to be available anywhere. I've got an old book cupboard in my garage in preparation for the products haha

 

Is there a preferred website to use to buy cleaning products from? I'm hoping to be able to get the bulk of the products from one website to save on postage :D 


I think most of the horror stories on machine polishing are related in the main to rotary polishers which do need more skill.  Rotaries rotate in a fixed manner so get greater heat build up where the disc spins in one place and in inexperienced hand could potentially burn or strike through clear coat. DA (Dual Action) or random orbital polishers, have a disc that oscillates in a random pattern rather than one place, so that spreads and reduces the amount of heat so are generally safer.  As with anything, it’s a learning curve but once you’ve overcome that initial fear (and armed with some information from good DA videos) they are relatively easy to use.  And of course the results far exceed anything you can achieve by hand. 
 

But, that said, hand polishing is still worthwhile. If you’re polishing by hand think about getting a decent foam pad with dual density foams so good for correction and finishing.  Have a look here.  https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/paint-correction/polishing-pads/hand-polishing-pads
 

If you do go with Collinite 845 (which I personally think is a good wax with fantastic durability, it not as good as some on finish but very long lasting), then my advice is to warm the bottle in some warm/hot water before using.  This makes it much more user friendly application as it can be a bit grabby otherwise.  You might want to check out Dodo Juice waxes are they are very user friendly and gives excellent results.  Especially the Pro editions such as Blue Velvet and Purple Haze.  And Supernatural Hybrid (SNH) is a great wax too.  
https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/exterior/paint-protection/car-wax-carnauba/dodo-juice

But have a look on Amazon for the 30ml sample pots of the Pro Editions as you get a lot out of 30ml pot without committing to a big pot.  


These detailing product websites are all good ones 

 

http://cleanyourcar.co.uk

http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk

http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk

http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk

https://wo-wo.myshopify.com

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk

http://www.juicydetailing.co.uk

https://www.in2detailing.co.uk

https://www.shopnshine.co.uk

https://www.cleanandshiny.co.uk

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3 hours ago, Booth11 said:


I think most of the horror stories on machine polishing are related in the main to rotary polishers which do need more skill.  Rotaries rotate in a fixed manner so get greater heat build up where the disc spins in one place and in inexperienced hand could potentially burn or strike through clear coat. DA (Dual Action) or random orbital polishers, have a disc that oscillates in a random pattern rather than one place, so that spreads and reduces the amount of heat so are generally safer.  As with anything, it’s a learning curve but once you’ve overcome that initial fear (and armed with some information from good DA videos) they are relatively easy to use.  And of course the results far exceed anything you can achieve by hand. 
 

But, that said, hand polishing is still worthwhile. If you’re polishing by hand think about getting a decent foam pad with dual density foams so good for correction and finishing.  Have a look here.  https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/paint-correction/polishing-pads/hand-polishing-pads
 

If you do go with Collinite 845 (which I personally think is a good wax with fantastic durability, it not as good as some on finish but very long lasting), then my advice is to warm the bottle in some warm/hot water before using.  This makes it much more user friendly application as it can be a bit grabby otherwise.  You might want to check out Dodo Juice waxes are they are very user friendly and gives excellent results.  Especially the Pro editions such as Blue Velvet and Purple Haze.  And Supernatural Hybrid (SNH) is a great wax too.  
https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/exterior/paint-protection/car-wax-carnauba/dodo-juice

But have a look on Amazon for the 30ml sample pots of the Pro Editions as you get a lot out of 30ml pot without committing to a big pot.  


These detailing product websites are all good ones 

 

http://cleanyourcar.co.uk

http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk

http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk

http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk

https://wo-wo.myshopify.com

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk

http://www.juicydetailing.co.uk

https://www.in2detailing.co.uk

https://www.shopnshine.co.uk

https://www.cleanandshiny.co.uk

Thank you so much! Really useful information there!

 

Those horror stories are basically the ones I've heard in the past which completely put me off. I don't mind polishing by hand but my god does it take a lot out of you. I think i need to start looking in to the machine polishing option again as it would make my life so much easier. Is there such a product as a machine polisher for beginners? I've got misses car i can test on LOL! Can you also wax a car with a machine polisher?

 

I'll have a look in to the other waxes you mentioned as I would preferably want something that's a bit easier to spread. 

 

Thank you for the links :D I think my initial purchases will be quite expensive which is usually the case and then just add to it and try other things over time. 

 

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19 minutes ago, Berty182 said:

Thank you so much! Really useful information there!

 

Those horror stories are basically the ones I've heard in the past which completely put me off. I don't mind polishing by hand but my god does it take a lot out of you. I think i need to start looking in to the machine polishing option again as it would make my life so much easier. Is there such a product as a machine polisher for beginners? I've got misses car i can test on LOL! Can you also wax a car with a machine polisher?

 

I'll have a look in to the other waxes you mentioned as I would preferably want something that's a bit easier to spread. 

 

Thank you for the links :D I think my initial purchases will be quite expensive which is usually the case and then just add to it and try other things over time. 

 


A DAS 6 Pro is a great machine to get started with. It has an 8mm throw so it can take both 5/6” backing plate and pads as well as 3” spot pads, the latter very useful for the smaller areas and contours of a golf 7/7.5.  There’s also the updated v2 machine which has a 9mm throw you can also fit a 3mm backing plate to for spot pads.  You can get kits so worth looking at.  
 

https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/paint-correction/polishing-machines/dual-action-polishers/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsN6DpqXx7wIViZntCh1f3wLFEAAYASAAEgLFzvD_BwE

 

https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/paint-correction/polishing-machines/dual-action-polishers/das-6-dual-action-polisher?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsN6DpqXx7wIViZntCh1f3wLFEAAYASAAEgLFzvD_BwE

 

You can get 15mm throw DAs but these don’t allow for fitting 3mm backing plates so are limited in that respect.  The greater the throw the more area is covered with each oscillation/rotation of the disc/pad but the downside is less versatility for smaller areas. I have a 15mm throw DA but I also have a mini DA for spot pad work.  When I first started out I had an 8mm throw machine and that was a great starting point.  Lots of other choices of course but just something to look at.  
 

Ley us know how you get ion with it all, and of course we’ll want pics!  😁

 

 

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Please be very careful if you go down the clay bar route. You will most likely need DA polishing after. Clay bar does give a very smooth finish but will probably cause damage to some degree. I like BH cleanser polish (less dusty compared to Autoglm SRP) and apply by hand. I also decontaminate using the BH products, in fact I think I use BH for most jobs. Poorboys wheel sealant (easy on and off). Meguiars MF mits are nice and easy to get hold of. 

 

I do enjoy testing waxes and have used many. Again BH double speed / finis give long lasting protection (up to 6 months for me) but are a bit tricky removing but priced quite well. DoDo light fantastic is nice to use and smells nice. Swissvax BOS (expensive) smells great and is very easy to use. I have four more to test  at some point (Autofinesse fusion, Angelwax drift, swissvax mirage - all smell great and at some point Blackfire midnight sun - come on Polishedbliss 2wks now). Good luck with your new wheels and a good list of products you put together there.

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2 hours ago, Booth11 said:


A DAS 6 Pro is a great machine to get started with. It has an 8mm throw so it can take both 5/6” backing plate and pads as well as 3” spot pads, the latter very useful for the smaller areas and contours of a golf 7/7.5.  There’s also the updated v2 machine which has a 9mm throw you can also fit a 3mm backing plate to for spot pads.  You can get kits so worth looking at.  
 

https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/paint-correction/polishing-machines/dual-action-polishers/das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsN6DpqXx7wIViZntCh1f3wLFEAAYASAAEgLFzvD_BwE

 

https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/paint-correction/polishing-machines/dual-action-polishers/das-6-dual-action-polisher?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsN6DpqXx7wIViZntCh1f3wLFEAAYASAAEgLFzvD_BwE

 

You can get 15mm throw DAs but these don’t allow for fitting 3mm backing plates so are limited in that respect.  The greater the throw the more area is covered with each oscillation/rotation of the disc/pad but the downside is less versatility for smaller areas. I have a 15mm throw DA but I also have a mini DA for spot pad work.  When I first started out I had an 8mm throw machine and that was a great starting point.  Lots of other choices of course but just something to look at.  
 

Ley us know how you get ion with it all, and of course we’ll want pics!  😁

 

 

Thanks Booth! I'll watch a few youtube videos of the DAS 6 Pro to get an idea of what it's like :D looks really good value as well.

 

I'll be taking lots of pictures before and after for sure! I've missed everything about owning a nice car even down to the cleaning :grin:

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4 minutes ago, Berty182 said:

Thanks Booth! I'll watch a few youtube videos of the DAS 6 Pro to get an idea of what it's like :D looks really good value as well.

 

I'll be taking lots of pictures before and after for sure! I've missed everything about owning a nice car even down to the cleaning :grin:


Great, look forward to seeing your progress!  
 

Also echo what Daniel43 says about clay marring, which is almost unavoidable even with a very good claying technique, and loads of lube. DA finishing polish sorts it in no time, but extra elbow grease needed if hand polishing.  
 

Hope it all goes well.  

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52 minutes ago, Daniel43 said:

Please be very careful if you go down the clay bar route. You will most likely need DA polishing after. Clay bar does give a very smooth finish but will probably cause damage to some degree. I like BH cleanser polish (less dusty compared to Autoglm SRP) and apply by hand. I also decontaminate using the BH products, in fact I think I use BH for most jobs. Poorboys wheel sealant (easy on and off). Meguiars MF mits are nice and easy to get hold of. 

 

I do enjoy testing waxes and have used many. Again BH double speed / finis give long lasting protection (up to 6 months for me) but are a bit tricky removing but priced quite well. DoDo light fantastic is nice to use and smells nice. Swissvax BOS (expensive) smells great and is very easy to use. I have four more to test  at some point (Autofinesse fusion, Angelwax drift, swissvax mirage - all smell great and at some point Blackfire midnight sun - come on Polishedbliss 2wks now). Good luck with your new wheels and a good list of products you put together there.

Thanks for the heads up and the info :D I think most of my list contains BH products now. 

I used a BH snow foam product and wax years ago and was really impressed by them

 

I do like a good smelling product makes it. I remember using wheel cleaner before and I swear it smelt like a rotten turd haha

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845 is really good once, as stated above, the bottle has been warmed. Sparing application best, as with most waxes.

 

However, have you thought about sealants? This stuff is a tenner a bottle. Smells a bit funny but will give 6 months protection and a very slick finish. Easy application and buff if used sparingly. This stuff will last even longer, quite likely up to a year, but is best applied differently to the label (see my post here). Again, very easy application.

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