JonnyG Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Have VW changed the oil type in the Mk 8 R from the Mk 7/7.5 ? [EDIT : The below is not the correct one afterall - Please read on !] This seems to be coming up as one of the recommended oils for Mk 8 2.0 litre models :- "Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L Engine Oil -0W-20 - Designed to meet the demanding requirements of particular high-performance engines of Audi, VW and Porsche." Not a bad price atm here too :- https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/shell-helix-ultra-professional-av-l-engine-oil-0w-20-c5-1ltr-521773462 kevintaper1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevintaper1 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Have VW changed the oil type in the Mk 8 R from the Mk 7/7.5 ? This seems to be coming up as one of the recommended oils for Mk 8 2.0 litre models :- "Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L Engine Oil -0W-20 - Designed to meet the demanding requirements of particular high-performance engines of Audi, VW and Porsche." Not a bad price atm here too :- https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/shell-helix-ultra-professional-av-l-engine-oil-0w-20-c5-1ltr-521773462 http://vwroc.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/monthly_2021_09/Oil.thumb.JPG.cba26e8d022dbcaffcd707176f0eb909.JPGYea pretty same oil I had in my Audi S4 that what our 8 Rs take now????Sent from my CPH2173 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Funny you should mention this @Jonny R as I was wondering myself the other day as like to keep a litre in the boot just in case, and was wanting to know what to buy. So I phoned my local dealership yesterday. It has changed, they checked against my registration and stated it’s 0w30 oil 504, 507. So that differs from above?! They said VW do their own VW branded one (not Quantum) and that’s what will be used at first service. But any oil meeting that specification will be suitable. Needs checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Thought I’d try another dealership so just phoned JCB Medway (where I bought my car) and they state it is 0w20 508, 509 longlife IIII, so as per your post above. He said the other dealership info was wrong as it takes longlife IIII not longlife III and 0w30 is the latter. But who is right? If he’s right (?) better tell my local one that otherwise they’ll be putting the wrong oil in at service. 🙄 Fortunately I’ve not bought any yet myself. But worth people double checking with their servicing dealership before it goes in for an oil change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Out of interest., does the ACEA rating make a big difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWHighlander Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 If it helps, my wife took delivery of her 'R' on Thu, in the boot was a litre of VW branded 0 W 30, 504 507. The H'book says this is the correct oil, the sticker under the bonnet says the same. So that's what we will be sticking with. Any subsequent oil related issues cannot then be held against us. Mike camelsac2002, Booth11 and JonnyG 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregozedobe Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 I think I've read somewhere that the move from 5W-30 oil to 0W-20 was driven by the slight decrease in fuel consumption from runnier (less viscous/lower viscosity) oil, not for better wear protection (504/507 5W-30 oil has excellent anti-wear performance). There has been some discussion that VW changed the oil pump to allow for the runnier oil. IMO an engine with poor oil ring seals may use more oil with runnier oil (because more oil will make its way into the combustion chamber and get burnt off). VW don't care if your engine wears faster using runnier oil, as long as it lasts past the warranty period anything after that is the owner's problem (and in fact may generate more profit for VW and their dealers). I note that many tuners recommend thicker oil (5W-40 ? ) for tuned engines, I guess you can draw your own conclusions from that. mikef4uk, Nighthawk and camelsac2002 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyG Posted September 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 I tried checking with the usual oil company "check my car" website searches and they didn't come back with anything for the R. Maybe it will work for your reg. However for the Mk 8 2.0 GTI they come back with 0W-20 :- https://www.shell.com/motorist/find-the-right-oil.html I think Volkswizard checked on erWin and changed his GTi Clubsport oil and that was a 504 0W-30 so that's looking the right one as it tallies with MIke (NWHighlander) above ! :- Jump to 4.00 minutes > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyG Posted September 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Booth11 said: Funny you should mention this @Jonny R as I was wondering myself the other day as like to keep a litre in the boot just in case, and was wanting to know what to buy. Like me ! and I bet you've got one of these to put it in 🙂 :- Booth11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, JonnyG said: Like me ! and I bet you've got one of these to put it in 🙂 :- I did indeed have this with my 7R But I left it in the car for its new owner (private sale) because I’m nice like that. 🙂 So another one needs to be sourced along with bottle of whichever oil turns out to be the correct one. JonnyG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHG Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 I don’t have my 8R yet, but I hope this post will still be useful and not interrupting.I remember the shift from 502 to 504/507 (around 2010-2012) in order to increase the time between services and decrease the wear on the catalytic converter (I used 502 in my GTI and my Cat did go out after 5-6 years).Also I heard in 2019 that they switched to 508/509 when they went with OPF, as thinner oils may run into the engine more, but they burn cleaner than heavier oils, which may cause congestion in Cat and/or OPF if they do get into the engine, get partially-burnt, and flow through those two.It is strange that different 8Rs get different instructions for oil standard - 504 vs 508 (similar to our tire pressure conundrum). Perhaps it is a matter of climate (if that even makes any sense). Booth11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHG Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 I did indeed have this with my 7R http://vwroc.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/monthly_2021_09/F51497CF-F02C-44B6-A680-8A667DFC7CE4.thumb.jpeg.dfdf756ddf427cf9c16e60a3268045f5.jpeg But I left it in the car for its new owner (private sale) because I’m nice like that. So another one needs to be sourced along with bottle of whichever oil turns out to be the correct one. That is an awesome oil bag !I didn’t get one of those with any of my previous carsSo just stuck a liter of Castro’s and a liter of distilled water (for wipers mostly, or coolant in emergency) under the floor of the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth11 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, AHG said: That is an awesome oil bag ! I didn’t get one of those with any of my previous cars So just stuck a liter of Castro’s and a liter of distilled water (for wipers mostly, or coolant in emergency) under the floor of the boot. It was a nifty little thing. It wasn’t supplied with the car, I bought it off Amazon as a oil in pouch package. I kept it in the side storage bin in the boot. Will do same for that 8R when I’m sure of which oil it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHG Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Terrific. So I will look for it on Amazon.If I find a good one, I’ll put a link in the “what did you buy for you R” thread. Booth11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin2 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Booth11 said: I did indeed have this with my 7R But I left it in the car for its new owner (private sale) because I’m nice like that. 🙂 So another one needs to be sourced along with bottle of whichever oil turns out to be the correct one. Porsche provided something very similar which included a funnel and gloves as well as the oil, with every service. I’ve got a couple in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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