Millsn 34 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just interested to know, I see a fair but of chat on here about bcs' downpipes but can find nothing searching on 'Trackslag'. Does anyone here run one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Penguin 1,917 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 I'm 99% sure(ish) that @Bowen had a TrackSlag 4" DP fitted by Devil Developments when he got his L380X fitted, could be wrong but hopefully he'll be able to confirm either way... Bowen and Millsn 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToRnado_R 472 Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 I'll state the obvious, yes I'm sure they are great but unless your looking at 1kBHP+ get a powervalve or scorpion DP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Millsn 34 Posted November 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 I was hoping for a mini review really. There's power/torque but also noise to consider and if the 4" keeps the turbo cool that's got to be worthwhile too. Got to wonder if it'll rattle though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Peterman 11 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Lower EGT with the 4” slag and has been shown to improve spool by a few hundred rpm, especially on larger than stock turbos, catted or not. Cat is downstream from stock position. Millsn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Millsn 34 Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 It all sounds good - is there a catch? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bowen 232 Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 25/11/2021 at 22:01, Penguin said: I'm 99% sure(ish) that @Bowen had a TrackSlag 4" DP fitted by Devil Developments when he got his L380X fitted, could be wrong but hopefully he'll be able to confirm either way... Yeah I had a trackslag 4"dp with my L380X turbo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MyGolfMk7 24 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 I'm using a catted Trackslag with my IS38 GTI. It made the exhaust slightly quieter than the 3" downpipe (200 cpi) I was using before which I was pleasantly surprised by. Performance differences have been minimal, but measured boost onset and acceleration time improved very slightly with the Trackslag, though I doubt a driver would be able to detect the difference. I don't understand how the downpipe would help to keep the turbo cooler. Millsn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCSquirrel 0 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Just thought i'd throw my 2cents in from what i've read; Seems to be a common theme with the early IS38 turbos snapping shafts due to low RPM overboosting and WOT flutter. The IS38 has an eager spool curve to try combat turbo lag by spooling as early as possible, hence why some remaps cause increased turbo flutter when on power at lower RPMs. The earlier spool time that the 4" brings may be detrimental when trying to combat this however, this should be fine, if not beneficial, on aftermarket larger turbos. I was aiming for a Trackslag when pricing up for stage 2 but was steered away from it by almost every "premade map" tuner as their software wasn't designed for "abnormal hardware". Happy to be proven incorrect, just voicing what research i've read Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MyGolfMk7 24 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 On 12/01/2022 at 05:18, TCSquirrel said: Just thought i'd throw my 2cents in from what i've read; Seems to be a common theme with the early IS38 turbos snapping shafts due to low RPM overboosting and WOT flutter. The IS38 has an eager spool curve to try combat turbo lag by spooling as early as possible, hence why some remaps cause increased turbo flutter when on power at lower RPMs. The earlier spool time that the 4" brings may be detrimental when trying to combat this however, this should be fine, if not beneficial, on aftermarket larger turbos. I was aiming for a Trackslag when pricing up for stage 2 but was steered away from it by almost every "premade map" tuner as their software wasn't designed for "abnormal hardware". Happy to be proven incorrect, just voicing what research i've read I doubt the 4" pipe at the turbo outlet does much on a downpipe with a catalytic converter. The difference I have measured in boost onset is very minor versus a more typical downpipe. http://mygolfmk7.com/2021/11/trackslag-vs-arm-downpipe-boost-onset/ gregozedobe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nige bcs 633 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 New for 2022, Powervalve are now offering 90mm Downpipes as part of the new FLOW90 range for the VAG MQB platform. Collectors are ceramic coated for thermal efficiency. Cheers Nige mp2811 and MyGolfMk7 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G16OCK 45 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 My pal runs one on the same turbo I have venom 550 and he noticed a nice increase in spool time, but that is probably mostly down to venoms architecture, noise is another factor, I was debating getting one as I've now silencer my car and it sounds not far off stock Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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