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6 minutes ago, Penguin said:

On paper it looks like it could be quite good. Judging by the Yaris GR it probably will be.  
 

Shame it won’t be coming to the UK

 

https://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/202232/toyota-gr-corolla-revealed-297bhp-hot-hatchback-to-give-golf-r-nightmares

 

 

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Was going to post the same.  Social media is abuzz with it.  Think it looks fantastic.  
 

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-japanesecars/all-new-toyota-gr-corolla-revealed/45506

 

 

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I really like it.  Seems an odd decision to only offer three GR models in any one market. 
 

Toyota will produce RHD models regardless so it would be interesting to see if they reverse their decision.  Won’t be long before imports are on AutoTrader. 

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1 hour ago, Penguin said:

I really like it.  Seems an odd decision to only offer three GR models in any one market. 
 

Toyota will produce RHD models regardless so it would be interesting to see if they reverse their decision.  Won’t be long before imports are on AutoTrader. 


Yes a great shame it’s not coming to the UK because f their marketing strategy, as it would be such a contender here, especially for those wanting everything it offers with a manual gearbox.   We have the Yaris GR but much prefer this Corolla.  

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Look at the little yellow light
They are aimed at the US mainly
(or so I think, at least)

Visually it looks like a precious gen Type R, which I didn’t like so much.

Also, extorting 300hp from a 3-pot 1.6L engine is like doing 420hp from a 4-pot 2.0L (a45s) … seems extremely close to the limit (for my comfort),

None of them (a45, Type R, Corolla GR) have the elegance and poise of the Golf 8. The last hatchback Golf, apparently.

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11 minutes ago, AHG said:

Look at the little yellow light
They are aimed at the US mainly
(or so I think, at least)

Visually it looks like a precious gen Type R, which I didn’t like so much.

Also, extorting 300hp from a 3-pot 1.6L engine is like doing 420hp from a 4-pot 2.0L (a45s) … seems extremely close to the limit (for my comfort),

None of them (a45, Type R, Corolla GR) have the elegance and poise of the Golf 8. The last hatchback Golf, apparently.


Yes North America bound I think. Shame.   I have a soft spot for the much maligned Type R designs so this tickles my fancy aesthetically.  But….being of a certain age, I’d always take the 8R for every day liveable looks (even with the shouty PP spoiler and Akra 😜).  
 

Looking forward to the early driving reviews on the Corolla GR though.  

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3 hours ago, Booth11 said:


Yes North America bound I think. Shame.   I have a soft spot for the much maligned Type R designs so this tickles my fancy aesthetically.  But….being of a certain age, I’d always take the 8R for every day liveable looks (even with the shouty PP spoiler and Akra 😜).  
 

Looking forward to the early driving reviews on the Corolla GR though.  

I keep finding myself looking at the CTR but even the rear wing-less Sportline version is still a bit too much. If I was 10-20 years younger….

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Penguin said:

I keep finding myself looking at the CTR but even the rear wing-less Sportline version is still a bit too much. If I was 10-20 years younger….

 

 


Yeah but it’s FWD still …. With 320bhp. Great in the dry, I’m sure. 
 

When you are used to 4wd I can’t help thinking a powerful 2wd car will feel a little frustrating at times. And the lap times and track tests that you see on the ‘net are done in the dry. I can’t help thinking the Golf R will run rings around it in the wet. 
 

In the dry, a different matter of course…..l but it’s wet/cold/damp a lot in the UK!

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33 minutes ago, dopper99 said:


Yeah but it’s FWD still …. With 320bhp. Great in the dry, I’m sure. 
 

When you are used to 4wd I can’t help thinking a powerful 2wd car will feel a little frustrating at times. And the lap times and track tests that you see on the ‘net are done in the dry. I can’t help thinking the Golf R will run rings around it in the wet. 
 

In the dry, a different matter of course…..l but it’s wet/cold/damp a lot in the UK!

Aye very true. TBH I just look, think about it for a bit then realise I’d miss 440bhp, AWD and the practicality of an estate. 

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I really like it.  Seems an odd decision to only offer three GR models in any one market. 
 
Toyota will produce RHD models regardless so it would be interesting to see if they reverse their decision.  Won’t be long before imports are on AutoTrader. 

You can bet your bottom dollar that Litchfield might import them.


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4 hours ago, Penguin said:

I keep finding myself looking at the CTR but even the rear wing-less Sportline version is still a bit too much. If I was 10-20 years younger….

 

 


Haha, yeah, if only a decade, or two, or even three, younger!  Love both of them though for what they are.  
 

But Andy says, you might miss the 4WD in out inclement climate and rough roads.  Can always up the power I guess but would you want to through 2 wheels?  

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I've never fully understood the whole AWD vs the others in the UK argument, at least not from a performance point of view. Yes an AWD hot hatch will run rings around most in the wet, but who is really pushing on that hard in the wet? I found out the hard way in my youth that this is not a good idea (and that was an AWD car). And as far as general performance, yes AWD gets out of the slow corners better or handles uneven surfaces better, but again, I doubt most anyone is really pushing on THAT hard on public roads to really have it make much of a difference.

 

The only advantage really is when it comes to things like pulling out at roundabouts or if you have to do any driving in the snow. But even then, a good set of winter tyres on a FWD car will beat out an AWD car on normal tyres any day (in normal driving). But don't get me wrong, I'll always choose AWD if its an option, but that's because I love bonkers acceleration. 

 

 

As for the Corolla... take away that stupid oval centre exhaust and I'd say I'd be tempted. The only thing that put me off the Yaris GR is it's size so having basically the same car in a bigger package is everything I'd ask for. Not that it matters as it won't be coming here.

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12cm longer and 100kg lighter than 8R
should be impressive

I think the allure of AWD in everyday driving is that it is much more forgiving if you make mistakes in the wet, than FWD/RWD which tend to punish you with exaggerated under/over steer, where the AWD usually just powers out of more tough spots.

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Toyota must have some compelling data that tells them a GR86 coupe will attract more sales than a hot hatch.  From a quick Google search it appears that the UK's top selling performance cars of 2021 is near enough dominated by hot hatches.  Not one coupe appears in the top 10 which was published by the Department for Transport.   The GR Yaris was 2nd overall.... 

 

Anyway, we'll be getting this: 

https://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/204406/single-high-specification-toyota-gr86-priced-from-ps29990-in-uk

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