Growmac Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 I'd go for multi-port injection, so the 2017. Keeps the valves clean, although the point about the DPF and LEZs on the newer car is well made, so who knows? My R Estate is black. It looks great for 40 seconds after you wash it, then goes back to filthy. Terrible choice, avoid. DCC and 18" is a great combination. Comfy, or firm, and 'normal' price tyres. Makes it a better daily driver and a better Q car, although both those factors could be good or bad depending on what you're aiming for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjay777 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Erm... my 2p, as someone who's old enough to have had a MK2 16v and a Mk3 VR6 way-back-when. Personally, I don't think the R will ever really be a collector’s car, they're just too popular and common place. Golfs have never really gone the way of RS Fords or BMW Ms etc. Maybe when they're 20-30 years old and all the cheap / rough ones are long gone. More than that though, cars and car culture have changed. The teenagers I know couldn't give a toss about cars, not really and if they do, a Tesla outranks any petrol car. Personally, I'm going to enjoy my R as long as I can, my next car will probally be an EV and I honestly and regretably think than in 2032, Petrol powered cars are going to look a bit daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition1 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Pjay777 said: Petrol powered cars are going to look a bit daft. My R is trounced off the line by any EV - small hatches, those Polestar saloons, Kia SUVs - everything except really low power EVs. By 2032 I'd probably be fined for accelerating too slowly 😂 NRW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRW Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ignition1 said: By 2032 I'd probably be fined for accelerating too slowly All the Oldies will be Beeping you to get a move on😂 Ignition1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_wannabe_owner Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 23 hours ago, Ignition1 said: My R is trounced off the line by any EV - small hatches, those Polestar saloons, Kia SUVs - everything except really low power EVs. By 2032 I'd probably be fined for accelerating too slowly 😂 Apologies for taking the discussion off topic, but I was behind a Mini Electric at traffic lights the other evening. I must say, I was quite surprised and impressed at how quickly it accelerated away from the lights. If I was in the market for a small EV, the Mini would be a serious contender. The main negatives (relatively poor range, poor rear seat accommodation for taller or larger passengers, limited luggage capacity) wouldn’t really be issues for me as my longest round trip these days is around 60-70 miles, I rarely carry rear seat passengers and don’t need large luggage capacity. Build quality, residuals and standard equipment levels are very good, and I’ve always been a fan of the Mini’s retro styling. The next generation Mini Electric is due out next year and will have a larger battery with increased range and more cabin space. I’ll be very tempted to give it a look and take a test drive 🙂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition1 Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 20/08/2022 at 09:42, R_wannabe_owner said: Apologies for taking the discussion off topic, but I was behind a Mini Electric at traffic lights the other evening. I must say, I was quite surprised and impressed at how quickly it accelerated away from the lights. If I was in the market for a small EV, the Mini would be a serious contender. The main negatives (relatively poor range, poor rear seat accommodation for taller or larger passengers, limited luggage capacity) wouldn’t really be issues for me as my longest round trip these days is around 60-70 miles, I rarely carry rear seat passengers and don’t need large luggage capacity. Build quality, residuals and standard equipment levels are very good, and I’ve always been a fan of the Mini’s retro styling. The next generation Mini Electric is due out next year and will have a larger battery with increased range and more cabin space. I’ll be very tempted to give it a look and take a test drive 🙂. Agree - at the moment EVs are definitely better suited for larger cars to hold enough batteries for the range, but also to give good interior space. The SUV body type seems the best balance. But it is changing as inevitable improvements are made. Bringing it back on topic: in 2028 / 2029, when a mid-level EV hatchback can gap a top-end ICE hot hatch off the line / legal speeds - hold onto that ICE car because it will likely be one of the last! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHig Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 A petrolhead chum sent me this: "Comparing EV acceleration to ICE is like comparing a microwave to a BBQ grill. Faster, but....." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orb ytl Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 On 19/08/2022 at 13:22, Pjay777 said: Erm... my 2p, as someone who's old enough to have had a MK2 16v and a Mk3 VR6 way-back-when. Personally, I don't think the R will ever really be a collector’s car, they're just too popular and common place. Golfs have never really gone the way of RS Fords or BMW Ms etc. Maybe when they're 20-30 years old and all the cheap / rough ones are long gone. More than that though, cars and car culture have changed. The teenagers I know couldn't give a toss about cars, not really and if they do, a Tesla outranks any petrol car. Personally, I'm going to enjoy my R as long as I can, my next car will probally be an EV and I honestly and regretably think than in 2032, Petrol powered cars are going to look a bit daft. i can remember thinking that about my old escort RS turbo about 20 years ago thinking its going to be worth nothing soon so i stripped it because it was worth more in parts back then lol its harder to predict the future for any car currently with the way things are going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shug Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, orb ytl said: i can remember thinking that about my old escort RS turbo about 20 years ago thinking its going to be worth nothing soon so i stripped it because it was worth more in parts back then lol its harder to predict the future for any car currently with the way things are going Problem is there’s a hell of a lot more Golf Rs around than there ever were RS turbos. The R is a mass produced car which had some really cheap finance deals and lease deals. Back in the day you had to pay a lot more (proportionately) for an RS than the mk7/7.5 gregozedobe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo123 Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Shug said: Problem is there’s a hell of a lot more Golf Rs around than there ever were RS turbos. The R is a mass produced car which had some really cheap finance deals and lease deals. Back in the day you had to pay a lot more (proportionately) for an RS than the mk7/7.5 Yes there are a lot of R's but only a handful with decent spec. Those will fetch a premium. If you got a 7.5 with akra, manual gearbox and a 3 door. Probably less than 50. Go on howmanyleft.co.uk and it shows numbers of different golf R variants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orb ytl Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 13 hours ago, momo123 said: Yes there are a lot of R's but only a handful with decent spec. Those will fetch a premium. If you got a 7.5 with akra, manual gearbox and a 3 door. Probably less than 50. Go on 18 hours ago, Shug said: Problem is there’s a hell of a lot more Golf Rs around than there ever were RS turbos. The R is a mass produced car which had some really cheap finance deals and lease deals. Back in the day you had to pay a lot more (proportionately) for an RS than the mk7/7.5 and it shows numbers of different golf R variants. when i purchased mine i was only interested in a 3 door DSG , when i narrowed the search down there wasnt a great deal of choice. vast majority seem to be 5 door 18 hours ago, Shug said: Problem is there’s a hell of a lot more Golf Rs around than there ever were RS turbos. The R is a mass produced car which had some really cheap finance deals and lease deals. Back in the day you had to pay a lot more (proportionately) for an RS than the mk7/7.5 really? im not debating, just that apparently there was over 16k RS turbos registered on uk roads in 1994, 4 years after the last ones were sold i cant find figures anywhere near that, for the mk7 R DSG its around 8k registered on uk roads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orb ytl Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 14 hours ago, momo123 said: Yes there are a lot of R's but only a handful with decent spec. Those will fetch a premium. If you got a 7.5 with akra, manual gearbox and a 3 door. Probably less than 50. Go on howmanyleft.co.uk and it shows numbers of different golf R variants. when i purchased mine i was only interested in a 3 door DSG, when i was narrowing the searches down there wasnt so many options, vast majority are 5 doors Msportman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shug Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, orb ytl said: really? im not debating, just that apparently there was over 16k RS turbos registered on uk roads in 1994, 4 years after the last ones were sold i cant find figures anywhere near that, for the mk7 R DSG its around 8k registered on uk roads? I hadn’t researched just going on what I see / saw when out and about Hardly ever saw RS turbos but Rs seem to be everywhere. my bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orb ytl Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, Shug said: I hadn’t researched just going on what I see / saw when out and about Hardly ever saw RS turbos but Rs seem to be everywhere. my bad... i can remember the days when RS turbos were everywhere golf Rs may never become as rare though due to the fact RS turbos started rotting the day they left the factory and cars these days are built a little better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msportman Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 There aren’t many low mileage 3 door’s R”s with good spec’s, low ownership and a good colour. plenty of high milers and big ticket low mile 7.5’s in 5 door. Ill sell mine but will ask a premium for all that is fitted to mine which is still low miles and I’m the first owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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