Lee57 Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 Has anyone gone to a stage 2 map without upgrading the front mount intercooler. thanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meandmyself777 Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 2 hours ago, Lee57 said: Has anyone gone to a stage 2 map without upgrading the front mount intercooler. thanks . It's better to have one, but when I was running jb4 at 6psi I never saw iat rise above 38c and that was in 25c heat, but you will gain more power and be more consistent.. I would say if you're definitely not going past stage 2 and don't track it, then its not worth the money Lee57 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp2811 Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 I’ve been running stage 2 HO APR for years on stock IC. No issues at all for me re heat soak but I don’t track car or push hard too often. Doing the occasional fast take offs to speed limit etc never raises the temps much for me. You will gain some extra HP and prevent heat soak but unless going stage 3 or tracking car it’s not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarffyyy Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 I never had one at stage 2 and was absolutely fine. The problem I had was finding someone who would map the car without a intercooler, went through about 5 tuners before I found a company that would do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 Isn't it called "stage 1.75" with the FMIC 😄 Why go to all that expense & skimp out at the last leg though ? You better off with a FMIC & uprated Charge/Throttle pipes to maximize the power output, along with keeping it all cool, as cool air means more power remember . silent_rep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meandmyself777 Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 12 minutes ago, Jace said: Isn't it called "stage 1.75" with the FMIC 😄 Why go to all that expense & skimp out at the last leg though ? You better off with a FMIC & uprated Charge/Throttle pipes to maximize the power output, along with keeping it all cool, as cool air means more power remember . I studied tune stages at university and it's actually stage 1.045111 😂 sibbers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent_rep Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 I ran without one for a few weeks when i was at Stage 2, below is before and after fitting an Airtec Intercooler. It definitely makes a difference... DanTheManc, mp2811 and Jace 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meandmyself777 Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 It depends on whether the question is.. Is it absolutely necessary or will it perform better with it.. You will make more power and more consistent power with it.. Still can't figure out why VW sandwich their intercoolers between the radiator and AC condenser 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougaberdeen Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 5 hours ago, silent_rep said: I ran without one for a few weeks when i was at Stage 2, below is before and after fitting an Airtec Intercooler. It definitely makes a difference... that’s impressive gains, is that at exactly the same boost levels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent_rep Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 10 hours ago, dougaberdeen said: that’s impressive gains, is that at exactly the same boost levels? Yeah, no change to anything else. Just installed the Airtec and told them i want to see if it made a difference so ran it a few times on the dyno and it gave pretty much the same figures every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougaberdeen Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 shows gains of up to 50 lb ft of torque over a good part of the midrange, you must notice a significant difference on the road with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee57 Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 Thanks for all the replies guys. I know jace said why go to all that expense & miss out the last bit but most of the expense is the front mount & charge pipes. My original question was can it be done and to see a small gain then I would be happy. Cheers guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp2811 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 On 24/05/2023 at 01:20, silent_rep said: I ran without one for a few weeks when i was at Stage 2, below is before and after fitting an Airtec Intercooler. It definitely makes a difference... That’s some decent gains there. Much more than I would have expected. Makes me think I might look for deals on do88 at Black Friday sales and see if I can get one decent price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent_rep Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 18 hours ago, mp2811 said: That’s some decent gains there. Much more than I would have expected. Makes me think I might look for deals on do88 at Black Friday sales and see if I can get one decent price. No brainer really if you push your car hard. You get more reliable and consistent power, especially in hot conditions. mp2811 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted321 Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 Would this sort of torque (442 LB FT) at lower RPM (3300) be considered about the limit on a standard engine ? Or well within a reasonable safety margin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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