Msportman Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 The time has come to replace my MPS4’s on my TD’s which have run well on the road and not too shabby on cooler trackdays. For anyone running or have run Cup2’s are they worth the extra £200 over MPS4. On 18 inch I tend to be lazy and not switch back to my normal Prets on Conti 6’s so run my TD’s on the road during the summer. I know the Cups don’t perform as well in the wet but the question is are they really worth the £200 extra over PS4.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Give me a week and I’ll be able to tell you, just fitted cup 2s to mine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk SteveH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obakong Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 There's a Youtube comparison using a Focus ST to test. PS4 and PS4s were nearly identical wet; 1 second faster for PS4S on dry around track. Cup2 was an added .5 second faster than PS4S on dry. Also the turn in was sharper and Cup2 had oversteer compared to slight understeer on PS4S. Here's the video link toplad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff R Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 I may be wrong, but I’m sure cup2 don’t come with as much tread from new vs the PS4 & PS4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msportman Posted May 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Jeff R said: I may be wrong, but I’m sure cup2 don’t come with as much tread from new vs the PS4 & PS4S Tread depth looks marginally shallower. I'd normally go the whole hog and fit Dunlop Direzza but not this time as they are very costly now. Cup 2's I suspect are the in between a full blown Motorsport and road tyre. Decisions decisions but it's a shame it's a £200 extra one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msportman Posted May 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Cup's just over 1.5 secs quicker in the dry than PS4....quite some margin but times to be taken subjectively on different platforms and 2WD v 4WD. Harder sidewalls are great for consistency and holding outer shoulder up lap after lap on the Cups. Hence cooler conditions and PS4 hold up better than a mid summer track event. That's what I've found. On the road the Ps4 are very good. I haven't tracked the Conti 6's but on the road they are impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAberdeen Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Ian I was really unimpressed with the PS4 on track, I found they went off after only a few laps and I destroyed the shoulders (Knockhill is brutal though). I've had my Yoko AD08R on for a week now and they're superb on the road, can only imagine they'll be good on track too from the reviews, but i'll find out on Saturday! They sit between the PS4 and PSC2 in terms of price, about £130/corner, so maybe worth considering? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msportman Posted May 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Thanks Dave. I'll take a look.Where did you source the Yoks? Give us an update and any pics of shoulder wear if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toplad Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 You'll really notice the difference between ps4 and cup on the track easily. The ps4 is a great road tyre, but depending on your set up and experience may overheat and be ruined fairly quickly. I've run cup's on my M3 and it was a world of difference on the road and track compared to the PS2's I had at the time. There's more feedback, higher corner entry speeds, apex speed and exit. Your also able to feel the brakes more allowing better stopping and confidence. Trouble is as soon as you upgrade the tyres, you'll notice the lack of body control and want to upgrade the brakes if you haven't already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAberdeen Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Msportman said: Thanks Dave. I'll take a look.Where did you source the Yoks? Give us an update and any pics of shoulder wear if you can. Black circles was the best place when I bought a few weeks. I'll report back at the weekend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurms Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just to chip into this, I didn't rate the PS4 on track, went off way to quickly and gave a load of understeer. I've driven Cup 2s on track and was very impressed by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Msportman Posted May 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Thanks chaps. It's going to be either the Cup's or the Yoko's depending on the deal. If any of you track enthusiasts are looking around for an event I'm booking this for 13th of July https://castlecombecircuit.co.uk/shows/performance-german-day/13/7/2019/ It's being supported by Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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