Beading

[Booth11]

The sun has gone and the rain has come, but that’s ok because beading!  Big, fat,chubby beads! 

 

 

 

 

 

[Msportman]

On 04/06/2026 at 12:51, Booth11 said:

The sun has gone and the rain has come, but that’s ok because beading!  Big, fat,chubby beads! 

 

 

 

 

 

You need the rain where you live…you don’t want another summer long hose pipe ban !

 

oooh nice beads though ! 😉

[Booth11]

4 hours ago, Msportman said:

You need the rain where you live…you don’t want another summer long hose pipe ban !

 

oooh nice beads though ! 😉

We certainly do need it - thousands of homes and businesses without any water again last month (same last summer):and it’ll be another 10-15 years before the new reservoir is built (even though it’s been planned since the ‘70s.  I anticipate the hosepipe ban is just round the corner. 

[omer]

On 6/4/2026 at 2:51 PM, Booth11 said:

The sun has gone and the rain has come, but that’s ok because beading!  Big, fat,chubby beads! 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you use Swissvax Cleaner Fluid before applying the wax?

[Booth11]

5 minutes ago, omer said:

Do you use Swissvax Cleaner Fluid before applying the wax?

If I’m applying wax after a full detailing session (post polishing) or if I’m applying completely fresh wax from scratch I use either SV Cleaner Fluid (regular) l or Gtechniq Panel Wipe as a pre wax prep.  If I’m just topping up wax then I don’t. 
 

Do you use it? 

[omer]

57 minutes ago, Booth11 said:

If I’m applying wax after a full detailing session (post polishing) or if I’m applying completely fresh wax from scratch I use either SV Cleaner Fluid (regular) l or Gtechniq Panel Wipe as a pre wax prep.  If I’m just topping up wax then I don’t. 
 

Do you use it? 

I also messaged you on Instagram but couldn’t reach you :(. I’m really interested in wax/detailing. At the moment I have Swissvax Shield and Onyx. I also bought Swissvax Cleaner Fluid Medium and Regular.

 

The Medium one genuinely worked really well and removed light scratches. However, unfortunately I can’t do machine polishing like you.

 

I use Cleaner Fluid every 3 months before a full wax application. Then, once a month, I apply a quick layer of Onyx almost like a quick wax/top-up.

 

 

 

[Booth11]

1 hour ago, omer said:

I also messaged you on Instagram but couldn’t reach you :(. I’m really interested in wax/detailing. At the moment I have Swissvax Shield and Onyx. I also bought Swissvax Cleaner Fluid Medium and Regular.

 

The Medium one genuinely worked really well and removed light scratches. However, unfortunately I can’t do machine polishing like you.

 

I use Cleaner Fluid every 3 months before a full wax application. Then, once a month, I apply a quick layer of Onyx almost like a quick wax/top-up.

 

 

 

Ah, apologies I missed that instagram message (not been on there much lately) - just been in an looked at it now. 
 

SV Cleaner Fluid Medium sounds a good option if you cannot machine polish as a hand pre wax prep stage and improving light swirls. Have you tried their strong version?  As I don’t use it  as a polish I only ever needed the regular version with no abrasives. 
 

I generally only do a full machine polish a maximum of once a year, and only if needed. Otherwise I’ll do spot polishing focusing on areas that need it such as B pillars and any areas where there is etching from bird poo or sap.  If I’ve polished I will follow with a pre wax cleaner (panel wipe or cleaner fluid) to get rid of any remaining polish residue and ensure a squeaky clean base prior to applying wax.  Regardless of polishing, and time permitting, I usually apply completely fresh wax every 3-4 months (like you) and will strip old wax off first and prep for wax in same way.  Then once freshly waxed I’ll top up as needed either with more of same wax, or after a maintenance wash, apply a compatible sacrificial layer like Swissvax Lotospeed or Angelwax Enigma Quick Detailer, or if I’m wanting a super speedy sacrificial layer I’ll use Gyeon WetCoat or Koch Chemie Protector Wax or Hydrofoam. 
 

I’m currently using Angelwax Enigma Ceramic wax which is excellent, but Swissvax waxes are up there as favourites.  I’ve used Onyx which is a lovely wax, Best of Show (another lovely wax), Shield (which I never really liked) and Crystal Rock (my favourite Swissvax wax).  

How are you liking Swissvax waxes?  

 

[omer]

42 minutes ago, Booth11 said:

Ah, apologies I missed that instagram message (not been on there much lately) - just been in an looked at it now. 
 

SV Cleaner Fluid Medium sounds a good option if you cannot machine polish as a hand pre wax prep stage and improving light swirls. Have you tried their strong version?  As I don’t use it  as a polish I only ever needed the regular version with no abrasives. 
 

I generally only do a full machine polish a maximum of once a year, and only if needed. Otherwise I’ll do spot polishing focusing on areas that need it such as B pillars and any areas where there is etching from bird poo or sap.  If I’ve polished I will follow with a pre wax cleaner (panel wipe or cleaner fluid) to get rid of any remaining polish residue and ensure a squeaky clean base prior to applying wax.  Regardless of polishing, and time permitting, I usually apply completely fresh wax every 3-4 months (like you) and will strip old wax off first and prep for wax in same way.  Then once freshly waxed I’ll top up as needed either with more of same wax, or after a maintenance wash, apply a compatible sacrificial layer like Swissvax Lotospeed or Angelwax Enigma Quick Detailer, or if I’m wanting a super speedy sacrificial layer I’ll use Gyeon WetCoat or Koch Chemie Protector Wax or Hydrofoam. 
 

I’m currently using Angelwax Enigma Ceramic wax which is excellent, but Swissvax waxes are up there as favourites.  I’ve used Onyx which is a lovely wax, Best of Show (another lovely wax), Shield (which I never really liked) and Crystal Rock (my favourite Swissvax wax).  

How are you liking Swissvax waxes?  

 

First of all, thank you so much for sharing your amazing experience in detailing. It honestly makes me really happy to talk to someone who truly understands these topics.

I’ve been into detailing for around 2 years now, basically since the day I bought my first car. My first car was a 2022 Golf 8, and now I have a 2026 Golf 8.5.

At the beginning, I really loved the SiO2 / ceramic-style effect. Because of that, Gyeon WetCoat was perfect for me at first,  until around 2 months after application, when it left black mineral like spots on my white car. I contacted Gyeon and they said it might be rainwater drying on the surface, and asked me to send the product for testing. They tested it and said they couldn’t find any issue with the product.

Where I live, there are no factories or anything that would cause dirty/industrial rain, so I started to suspect that maybe I had used too much WetCoat. After that experience, I kind of lost interest in SiO2 products and wanted to move more towards waxes.

First, I tried Collinite 476S, but because it is more of a synthetic wax, I didn’t really get the feeling or result I was looking for. After that, I wanted to try more premium natural waxes.

Since my car is always parked outside, I started using Swissvax Shield. At first, I prepared the surface with CarPro Eraser and applied Shield, but the durability felt very poor to me. Later, I did a more proper preparation: iron remover, clay, Swissvax Cleaner Fluid Medium on local light scratches, Cleaner Fluid Regular on the whole paint, and then Swissvax Shield again. But even then, the result still wasn’t exactly what I wanted.

Then I bought a 50 ml pot of Swissvax Onyx just to try it, and honestly I was surprised by the result. I couldn’t believe how such an “entry-level” wax could give such a glossy, natural look and such nice water behaviour. It impressed me much more than I expected.

When I was using Shield, I sometimes used Zymöl Field Glaze as a quick detailer/top-up, and I really like that product too. Of course, its effect doesn’t last very long, but the look is very nice.

There is also something I wanted to ask you: why do you apply SiO2 / ceramic-based spray products on top of natural waxes? In my opinion, they kind of hide or reduce the natural carnauba effect. I also have CarPro Reload 2.0, but products like that leave a very glassy look, which feels a bit artificial to me.

I’m also planning to try Zymöl waxes soon.

Sorry for the long message, but I’m really looking forward to your reply.

[Booth11]

2 minutes ago, omer said:

First of all, thank you so much for sharing your amazing experience in detailing. It honestly makes me really happy to talk to someone who truly understands these topics.

I’ve been into detailing for around 2 years now, basically since the day I bought my first car. My first car was a 2022 Golf 8, and now I have a 2026 Golf 8.5.

At the beginning, I really loved the SiO2 / ceramic-style effect. Because of that, Gyeon WetCoat was perfect for me at first,  until around 2 months after application, when it left black mineral like spots on my white car. I contacted Gyeon and they said it might be rainwater drying on the surface, and asked me to send the product for testing. They tested it and said they couldn’t find any issue with the product.

Where I live, there are no factories or anything that would cause dirty/industrial rain, so I started to suspect that maybe I had used too much WetCoat. After that experience, I kind of lost interest in SiO2 products and wanted to move more towards waxes.

First, I tried Collinite 476S, but because it is more of a synthetic wax, I didn’t really get the feeling or result I was looking for. After that, I wanted to try more premium natural waxes.

Since my car is always parked outside, I started using Swissvax Shield. At first, I prepared the surface with CarPro Eraser and applied Shield, but the durability felt very poor to me. Later, I did a more proper preparation: iron remover, clay, Swissvax Cleaner Fluid Medium on local light scratches, Cleaner Fluid Regular on the whole paint, and then Swissvax Shield again. But even then, the result still wasn’t exactly what I wanted.

Then I bought a 50 ml pot of Swissvax Onyx just to try it, and honestly I was surprised by the result. I couldn’t believe how such an “entry-level” wax could give such a glossy, natural look and such nice water behaviour. It impressed me much more than I expected.

When I was using Shield, I sometimes used Zymöl Field Glaze as a quick detailer/top-up, and I really like that product too. Of course, its effect doesn’t last very long, but the look is very nice.

There is also something I wanted to ask you: why do you apply SiO2 / ceramic-based spray products on top of natural waxes? In my opinion, they kind of hide or reduce the natural carnauba effect. I also have CarPro Reload 2.0, but products like that leave a very glassy look, which feels a bit artificial to me.

I’m also planning to try Zymöl waxes soon.

Sorry for the long message, but I’m really looking forward to your reply.

Gyeon WetCoat is a pain if you apply to much and don’t rinse it off immediately.  First time I started using it I had the spots you speak off, so after that I made sure I used less of it and my preferred method of application is to spray it sparingly onto a clean damp wash mitt and swipe over the panels - this means you have more control over application. I only do a few panels at once and then immediately and thoroughly pressure rinse off before doing the next few panels working my way top down around the car.   Less is definitely more with that product.  But as a minimum effort product it does yield quick results and had good hydrophobicity and that’s mainly why I use some of these SiO2 products as a stop gap.  
 

I used to be a die hard proponent of only using compatible LSP products on top of wax to a) ensure the best bond, and b) give the best finish, and for me that’s still the ultimate.  However I also like to experiment with different things, and as the likes of WetCoat and other hydro LSPs are only short lived, it’s no big deal, as they diminish relatively quickly and are useful as time saving top ups when I don’t have time to give the car the attention I would like.   But that said, I still find that compatible products give the best results in terms of aesthetic finish.  For example Swissvax Lotospeedm(polymer) although not as slick a finish as SiO2 sealants and SiO2 QDs, Lotospeed gives a much better finish applied on top of any Swissvax wax, really glossy and noticeably more pleasing (to my eyes anyway). But it’s fun to experiment -  I’ve been detailing quite a few years now so don’t mind trying things that might be a compromise in some ways (there’s always some kind of trade off) but benefits in other ways.  But I know I can always revisit my favourite combinations when I want the best balance of protection and aesthetic high quality finish.  In my current approach I’m finding Angelwax Enigma QD pairs beautifully with their Enigma Wax and are chemically compatible.  But again, sometimes for speed and ease of application I’ll just top up with WetCoat, Hydro foam or Protector Wax until I can give more time to the detailing.  
 

Collinite waxes are superb and have great durability and longevity, but for me, high carnauba content waxes are unsurpassed in terms of finish. I like the super glossy finish with depth they produce, as opposed to sterile glassy finish of some sealants.  That’s just personal preference and I totally understand why people choose ceramic (and other) coatings over ‘old fashioned’ wax.  Of course you don’t get the long lifespan with carnauba waxes but it’s a small price to pay and especially if you enjoy detailing.  Onyx is brilliant wax, and I think it’s actually better than the higher carnauba content Best of Show (which is also gorgeous).  Crystal Rock is even higher content and gives a good 3 months and incredible finish and great protection, so that’s my ultimate Swissvax wax but the price is pretty steep now!  Shield aside, all the Swissvax waxes I’ve used are an absolute dream to apply and buff off.  Angelwax Enigma Ceramic Wax is right up there with those in tens of ease of application with the added bonus that it doesn’t go grainy likeSV waxes can.  Bizarrely I’ve still not used Zymol waxes.  One day!  Gyeon hybrid wax is very good middle ground.  
 

Shield I just couldn’t get on with.  I used it for winter use for durability but did not like the application. Sounds like you did a full prep before using it(as did I) and found the same. 
 

It’s refreshing to hear from someone who is enjoying detailing, enjoying learning about it, and enjoying using carnauba wax, as that seems quite rare these days. 

[omer]

30 minutes ago, Booth11 said:

Gyeon WetCoat is a pain if you apply to much and don’t rinse it off immediately.  First time I started using it I had the spots you speak off, so after that I made sure I used less of it and my preferred method of application is to spray it sparingly onto a clean damp wash mitt and swipe over the panels - this means you have more control over application. I only do a few panels at once and then immediately and thoroughly pressure rinse off before doing the next few panels working my way top down around the car.   Less is definitely more with that product.  But as a minimum effort product it does yield quick results and had good hydrophobicity and that’s mainly why I use some of these SiO2 products as a stop gap.  
 

I used to be a die hard proponent of only using compatible LSP products on top of wax to a) ensure the best bond, and b) give the best finish, and for me that’s still the ultimate.  However I also like to experiment with different things, and as the likes of WetCoat and other hydro LSPs are only short lived, it’s no big deal, as they diminish relatively quickly and are useful as time saving top ups when I don’t have time to give the car the attention I would like.   But that said, I still find that compatible products give the best results in terms of aesthetic finish.  For example Swissvax Lotospeedm(polymer) although not as slick a finish as SiO2 sealants and SiO2 QDs, Lotospeed gives a much better finish applied on top of any Swissvax wax, really glossy and noticeably more pleasing (to my eyes anyway). But it’s fun to experiment -  I’ve been detailing quite a few years now so don’t mind trying things that might be a compromise in some ways (there’s always some kind of trade off) but benefits in other ways.  But I know I can always revisit my favourite combinations when I want the best balance of protection and aesthetic high quality finish.  In my current approach I’m finding Angelwax Enigma QD pairs beautifully with their Enigma Wax and are chemically compatible.  But again, sometimes for speed and ease of application I’ll just top up with WetCoat, Hydro foam or Protector Wax until I can give more time to the detailing.  
 

Collinite waxes are superb and have great durability and longevity, but for me, high carnauba content waxes are unsurpassed in terms of finish. I like the super glossy finish with depth they produce, as opposed to sterile glassy finish of some sealants.  That’s just personal preference and I totally understand why people choose ceramic (and other) coatings over ‘old fashioned’ wax.  Of course you don’t get the long lifespan with carnauba waxes but it’s a small price to pay and especially if you enjoy detailing.  Onyx is brilliant wax, and I think it’s actually better than the higher carnauba content Best of Show (which is also gorgeous).  Crystal Rock is even higher content and gives a good 3 months and incredible finish and great protection, so that’s my ultimate Swissvax wax but the price is pretty steep now!  Shield aside, all the Swissvax waxes I’ve used are an absolute dream to apply and buff off.  Angelwax Enigma Ceramic Wax is right up there with those in tens of ease of application with the added bonus that it doesn’t go grainy likeSV waxes can.  Bizarrely I’ve still not used Zymol waxes.  One day!  Gyeon hybrid wax is very good middle ground.  
 

Shield I just couldn’t get on with.  I used it for winter use for durability but did not like the application. Sounds like you did a full prep before using it(as did I) and found the same. 
 

It’s refreshing to hear from someone who is enjoying detailing, enjoying learning about it, and enjoying using carnauba wax, as that seems quite rare these days. 

Shield application is actually really, really good for me. I actually do it like this: I apply it to the whole car first, and while I’m applying it, around 15–20 minutes already pass. Even after that, it doesn’t dry hard on the surface at all and I can buff it off very easily.

But Onyx wasn’t like that for me. Last week, I left Onyx on the bonnet for around 15 minutes, and I thought I had buffed it off properly. But 2 days later, I noticed that all my wax application marks were visible. I got a bit stressed about it. I washed the car twice afterwards, but the wax application marks still didn’t go away. Yesterday, I used Cleaner Fluid Regular and then applied Shield, and now everything is fine. All the wax marks are gone.

I really liked using Shield as the base layer and then applying Onyx on top. Yes, maybe Shield doesn’t give the best look, but I have no doubt about its protection, especially because it contains PTFE.

Also, as you know, we need to adjust our washing products if we want to preserve wax properly. For pre-wash, I use ValetPRO Advanced Neutral Snow Foam, and for bucket washing I use Nanolex Pure Shampoo or Gyeon Bathe. Actually, my favourite shampoo is CarPro Reset, but I feel like it can be a bit harsh on wax.

I really love detailing and I really love my car. For the last 2 years, this has been my favourite hobby. My family thinks I’m crazy now, but I honestly don’t care. Especially my weekends are usually spent with the car.

One of my favourite areas to maintain is also keeping the steering wheel matte. What do you use for that? I currently use Zymöl Leather Cleaner, Swissvax Leather Glaze and Swissvax Leather Milk.

[Booth11]

7 minutes ago, omer said:

Shield application is actually really, really good for me. I actually do it like this: I apply it to the whole car first, and while I’m applying it, around 15–20 minutes already pass. Even after that, it doesn’t dry hard on the surface at all and I can buff it off very easily.

But Onyx wasn’t like that for me. Last week, I left Onyx on the bonnet for around 15 minutes, and I thought I had buffed it off properly. But 2 days later, I noticed that all my wax application marks were visible. I got a bit stressed about it. I washed the car twice afterwards, but the wax application marks still didn’t go away. Yesterday, I used Cleaner Fluid Regular and then applied Shield, and now everything is fine. All the wax marks are gone.

I really liked using Shield as the base layer and then applying Onyx on top. Yes, maybe Shield doesn’t give the best look, but I have no doubt about its protection, especially because it contains PTFE.

Also, as you know, we need to adjust our washing products if we want to preserve wax properly. For pre-wash, I use ValetPRO Advanced Neutral Snow Foam, and for bucket washing I use Nanolex Pure Shampoo or Gyeon Bathe. Actually, my favourite shampoo is CarPro Reset, but I feel like it can be a bit harsh on wax.

I really love detailing and I really love my car. For the last 2 years, this has been my favourite hobby. My family thinks I’m crazy now, but I honestly don’t care. Especially my weekends are usually spent with the car.

One of my favourite areas to maintain is also keeping the steering wheel matte. What do you use for that? I currently use Zymöl Leather Cleaner, Swissvax Leather Glaze and Swissvax Leather Milk.

That’s weird about the Onyx as my experience is it can be left on for quite a while before buffing off and it’s fine.  I’ve left it on for well over an hour at times (under cover) and it’s still buffed off like a dream.  It’s one of the many things I love about SV waxes.  Same goes for Best of Show and Crystal Rock.  But if you apply too much, it leaves a residue than can be very hard to get rid of.  Ime you only need the very thinnest layer of the Swissvax waxes, otherwise you’ll struggle to adequately buff all the residue off and that’s when you see the wax marks even when you think you’ve got it all off.  Maybe that was the issue with yours?   Glad you managed to sort it out.   Shield I find less forgiving than the other waxes. It was ok and the reason I chose it was because it contains PTFE but just didn’t gel with it but it’s years since I’ve used it. 
 

Yes my maintenance wash takes account of wax and aiming to prolonging its longevity.  ValetPro Advanced Neutral is superb pre wash snow foam (I used it for many years).  My goto snow foam now is Bilt Hamber Touchless used at a Panel Impact Ratio of 1% or 2% for maintenance wash or at a higher ratio of (4% or 5% ) for winter or very soiled car, or higher if I want to strip old wax.  For shampoo, if I’m using Swissvax Wax I tend to use Swissvax Car Bath (lovely shampoo), if I’m using Angelwax Enigma wax, I often use Angelwax Enigma Shampoo.  But I also like Gyeon Bathe (not Bathe+ which I don’t like), or Bilt Hamber Auto Wash shampoo and ValetPro Concentrated car wash, plus a few others.  I really like Garage Therapy Wheel Shampoo and was tempted to try their One shampoo but it contains gloss enhancers which I don’t like in a shampoo. 
 

My favourite leather cleaner (to keep matte finish which is crucial for me) is Colourlock Mild Leather Cleaner. Years ago I used to use Gliptone leather care products but switched to Colourlock products and no going back.  Colourlock is really effective for keeping factory matte finish and it’s very easy to use. They also do a Leather Protectant which is very good. 
 

It’s a great hobby to have although it can be an expensive one if you let it and consume a lot of your time, but there are worse things you can be doing! 😄

[omer]

13 minutes ago, Booth11 said:

That’s weird about the Onyx as my experience is it can be left on for quite a while before buffing off and it’s fine.  I’ve left it on for well over an hour at times (under cover) and it’s still buffed off like a dream.  It’s one of the many things I love about SV waxes.  Same goes for Best of Show and Crystal Rock.  But if you apply too much, it leaves a residue than can be very hard to get rid of.  Ime you only need the very thinnest layer of the Swissvax waxes, otherwise you’ll struggle to adequately buff all the residue off and that’s when you see the wax marks even when you think you’ve got it all off.  Maybe that was the issue with yours?   Glad you managed to sort it out.   Shield I find less forgiving than the other waxes. It was ok and the reason I chose it was because it contains PTFE but just didn’t gel with it but it’s years since I’ve used it. 
 

Yes my maintenance wash takes account of wax and aiming to prolonging its longevity.  ValetPro Advanced Neutral is superb pre wash snow foam (I used it for many years).  My goto snow foam now is Bilt Hamber Touchless used at a Panel Impact Ratio of 1% or 2% for maintenance wash or at a higher ratio of (4% or 5% ) for winter or very soiled car, or higher if I want to strip old wax.  For shampoo, if I’m using Swissvax Wax I tend to use Swissvax Car Bath (lovely shampoo), if I’m using Angelwax Enigma wax, I often use Angelwax Enigma Shampoo.  But I also like Gyeon Bathe (not Bathe+ which I don’t like), or Bilt Hamber Auto Wash shampoo and ValetPro Concentrated car wash, plus a few others.  I really like Garage Therapy Wheel Shampoo and was tempted to try their One shampoo but it contains gloss enhancers which I don’t like in a shampoo. 
 

My favourite leather cleaner (to keep matte finish which is crucial for me) is Colourlock Mild Leather Cleaner. Years ago I used to use Gliptone leather care products but switched to Colourlock products and no going back.  Colourlock is really effective for keeping factory matte finish and it’s very easy to use. They also do a Leather Protectant which is very good. 
 

It’s a great hobby to have although it can be an expensive one if you let it and consume a lot of your time, but there are worse things you can be doing! 😄

I read somewhere that Swissvax leather products are actually made by Colourlock, but I’m not sure if that’s true. In the end, both are German brands anyway.

My plan for today is to clean the interior plastics with Zymöl Vinyl Cleaner, and then apply Zymöl Vinyl Conditioner afterwards. The weather is getting warmer now, so I think it’s important to protect the interior from UV.

Do you also maintain/treat the exterior rubber door seals? I was thinking about using CarPro PERL on them, but I’m not completely sure. There are actually a lot of products for this, like Koch Chemie TS and others.

What’s your opinion on this? For the inner door seals, I used to apply Sonax GummiPfleger, but it attracts quite a lot of dust and sometimes makes noises when the car body flexes.

[Booth11]

6 minutes ago, omer said:

I read somewhere that Swissvax leather products are actually made by Colourlock, but I’m not sure if that’s true. In the end, both are German brands anyway.

My plan for today is to clean the interior plastics with Zymöl Vinyl Cleaner, and then apply Zymöl Vinyl Conditioner afterwards. The weather is getting warmer now, so I think it’s important to protect the interior from UV.

Do you also maintain/treat the exterior rubber door seals? I was thinking about using CarPro PERL on them, but I’m not completely sure. There are actually a lot of products for this, like Koch Chemie TS and others.

What’s your opinion on this? For the inner door seals, I used to apply Sonax GummiPfleger, but it attracts quite a lot of dust and sometimes makes noises when the car body flexes.

That would be interesting if the Swissvax leather is made by Colourlock. I know the Swissvax leather cleaner is a spray on product whereas the Colourlock is a pump foam.  If both do a good job that’s all good.  
 

I do sometimes treat the exterior door seals but not very frequently, they are easily marked. I find that many of these rubber care products run down the paintwork when it rains even if you carefully remove any excess.  I’ve used a few different products over the years -  Aerospace 303 is good and Swissvax Seal Feed.  Have also used Auto Finesse Dressle, Gyeon Trim and Gummi Pflege, but more often than not I just keep them clean and don’t apply anything to the seals.  
 

I only treat inner rubber door seals and window felts if they start creaking which they sometimes do as they dry out.  If that happens I use VW Special Lubricant (Krytox) Part no. VW G052172A1 which is a lubricant oil and I find it lasts a lot longer than Gummi Pflege ime.  I apply it with a small detailing brush or fingertips and then wipe the excess off with a clean lint free cloth and find that stops it attracting dust or running. I’ve not had to use it yet on my current car but used it on past VWs.  

[Msportman]

On 06/06/2026 at 15:43, omer said:

I read somewhere that Swissvax leather products are actually made by Colourlock, but I’m not sure if that’s true. In the end, both are German brands anyway.

My plan for today is to clean the interior plastics with Zymöl Vinyl Cleaner, and then apply Zymöl Vinyl Conditioner afterwards. The weather is getting warmer now, so I think it’s important to protect the interior from UV.

Do you also maintain/treat the exterior rubber door seals? I was thinking about using CarPro PERL on them, but I’m not completely sure. There are actually a lot of products for this, like Koch Chemie TS and others.

What’s your opinion on this? For the inner door seals, I used to apply Sonax GummiPfleger, but it attracts quite a lot of dust and sometimes makes noises when the car body flexes.

I was a great advocate of Zymol….I used to apply it to all of my previous cars. Started on Zymol Carbon then onto Gkasure ….lovely wax. I used to apply Zymol HD Cleanse with is fab for any light swirls etc.

I switched to Ceramic in 2019 and had correction stage 1/2 with Carbon Collective applied. This lasted until earlier this year where I had Gtechnic  Crystal Serum and Exo applied for easy of maintenance. No more Gyeon Wet Coat or Autoglym Polar seal needed.

 

It’s got a very different deeper glow  now which is so easy to maintain.

[omer]

@Booth11
 

Hi,

As you know, I’m currently using Shield as my main wax. My car is daily driven and it’s always parked outside, so it’s exposed to all kinds of weather. That’s why I use Shield as the base/main wax, but I’m not a big fan of its gloss or overall look. I find Onyx much better in that regard.

Because of that, I usually apply Onyx about 1 week after applying Shield. But now I’m looking for another wax to use instead of Onyx.

Do you think Swissvax Concorso would be a good choice as a second layer on top of Shield?

Thanks in advance.