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I had DSG in my last car & I've come back to manual. The DSG does have its plus points but I find changing gear part of the driving experience. It's just personal preference really. Currently have DTUK box on & no slip so far but it's probably only a matter of time before I go uprated clutch.

One thing to bear in mind is yes the DSG is more expensive but you may end up paying 1k for a clutch at some point so evens it out long term. Drive both & see which you prefer.

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I have a DSG, bought an auto as I do long journeys through twisty constant gear changing roads so auto was a no brainer for comfort. Though if I was to buy the car for real driving pleasure it would have been manual all day long. The DSG is very good but has some negatives that piss me off. 

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I own a manual R but did test the DSG before buying it....

 

Loved the DSG 'pops' when changing gear but apart from that i felt the DSG was  sterile and left me feeling cold. From reading this forum I understand the DSG suffers from poorer 'real world' fuel economy.

 

I love my manual gearbox as I feel I have more control of the car. I do worry about the clutch though.

 

Drive both versions and get what you like best. Your £20k budget should get you a DSG. Just make sure you buy your R from a VW dealership.

 

good luck!

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1 hour ago, Novus said:

Wanted manual

 

Test drove DSG

 

Bought manual

 

Not for me auto but understand the quality and speed of change that people love

 

Mines tuned , clutch uprated and I love it 

 

Wanted manual

 

Test drove DSG

 

Bought manual. 

 

Very tricky question to answer. DSG owners will say DSG is best, manual owners will say manual is best.

 

DSG is quicker, manual is more involving.

 

Did you enjoy changing gear in your last car?

 

Or was it a chore?

 

Do you commute in stop/start traffic daily?

 

Do you go for a drive in your free time on the open road?

 

Test drive both and see what you think. I only do 6,000 miles per year and hardly ever drive in traffic. I still very much enjoy changing gear.

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I drive automatics for a living and bought a Manual R just to have more to do and think about when driving my own vehicle. I have never driven a DSG, didn't even consider one. My R is driven mainly for pleasure never for work and I do about 10k a year in it. Surely a Manual must help maintain left leg fitness and possibly burn an extra 25 calories an hour?

 

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2 hours ago, Billy Whizz said:

The manual is fine, if you haven't driven one, the bite point is a little off putting until you get used to it, you have to fit a clutch stop to remove the dead space, once that's taken care of, they are pretty good. Gearbox isn't as good as my EP3, but then again, doubt I'll ever drive anything with a gearbox/arrangement as good as the EP3.

 

Yeah, those of us lucky enough to have owned a CTR EP3 have had the bar set way too high!

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Hi this is my my first post and I know its probably been talked about quite a few times but I would like to ask anyway. I currently drive a focus st on lease which comes to an end in November and have got my heart set on a Golf 7R, what I want to know from manual drivers of the Golf R is it a really good drive and does it still feel quick. The reason I ask is I'm looking to buy second hand preferably a 15 plate 5 door onwards and will have a budget of approximately £20000. Most of the cars on autotrader with that price are manuals even though I would rather have a DSG but are a little more and might be out of reach. I know the manuals have a chocolate clutch and are maxed out as they are so I wont be mapping the car but am worried if I get the manual ill regret it.
 
Sorry for going on a bit and appreciate any replies 


Each to their own Simon
I went from ep3 civic to mk5 gti DSG. The DSG was novelty but not great but this was 10 years ago.
After a few miserable Audi and Alfa experiences I now have a manual mk7. The forum is tending towads dsg but you should make your own mind up

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2 hours ago, Novus said:

Wanted manual

 

Test drove DSG in D

 

Bought manual

 

Not for me auto but understand the quality and speed of change that people love

 

Mines tuned , clutch uprated and I love it 

Went ahead and fixed your post there bud ;)

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1 hour ago, DUB said:

DSG is quicker, manual is more involving.

 

Not necessarily.  I hate driving my manual seat so much now (spoiled by the Golf) that I tend to only use the clutch to get her going and spend the rest of the journey rev-matching.  My "involvement" is limited to moving a stick 3" as opposed to pulling a paddle in the Golf 1".  I guess if moving something around 2 extra inches is involving then your statement applies.

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9 minutes ago, Splats said:

Went ahead and fixed your post there bud ;)

D is the only drivable mode. S is useless unless you have it in manual. S reminds me of the 90 yr old lady that used to drive her polo everywhere in second gear revving the guts out of the engine.

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1 minute ago, andy86r said:

D is the only derivable mode. S is useless unless you have it in manual. S reminds me of the 90 yr old lady that used to drive her polo everywhere in second gear revving the guts out of the engine.

 

Therein lies my point though.  The DSG style gearboxes were originally conceived of as manual gearboxes that can be used as an auto if you're not in the mood.  Over the years that message has been lost and nearly everyone uses them as an auto and then complains that they are a) not as good as a manual and b) not as good as a torque converting auto.  DSG R owners should be driving in manual a lot more than auto but I'm willing to get most people are D-auto 90% of the time.  In fact, I'm going to see if I can create a poll.

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6 minutes ago, Splats said:

 

Not necessarily.  I hate driving my manual seat so much now (spoiled by the Golf) that I tend to only use the clutch to get her going and spend the rest of the journey rev-matching.  My "involvement" is limited to moving a stick 3" as opposed to pulling a paddle in the Golf 1".  I guess if moving something around 2 extra inches is involving then your statement applies.

 

As has already been said it's down to personal opinion. 

 

For me the manual is more involving 😉

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