Shug Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 On 31/05/2022 at 15:49, fastgolf said: For me the R400 would have been a much better effort for a special. Thought it was different enough from the standard R especially with the wider wheel arches and Recaro Wingbacks. A unique colour would have been better too. They are having enough problems making standard cars, can you imagine how hard it would be with larger arches and big changes rather than just cosmetic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 15 hours ago, Shug said: They are having enough problems making standard cars, can you imagine how hard it would be with larger arches and big changes rather than just cosmetic? It’s wiring looms and silicon chips holding builds back. different body pieces would have little to impact on delivery times. Changing electronics would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_wannabe_owner Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 In these days of managing and reducing costs, its very unlikely VW would ever produce a limited number of bespoke body panel pressings for a low volume anniversary model. IMHO, that would never get signed off by the bean counters in VW’s Ivory Tower. At best, I think all that could have been expected was a anniversary-specific badges, maybe different alloys and a few pieces of model-specific trim. It’s got the badges and carbon fibre trim and as for the alloys - at least there’s the blue option, along with blue door mirror caps 🤣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGTI7 Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, egg said: It’s wiring looms and silicon chips holding builds back. different body pieces would have little to impact on delivery times. Changing electronics would. I think you're grossly simplifying it. There isn't a chance in hell that VW were going to do a bespoke mass produced car, chip shortages or not. But of course, the chip shortages do affect everything. So many things are indirectly affected by it. Different body panels would obviously require re-tooling... different tools, re-configured robots, new robots, reconfigured assembly lines, etc... There are plenty of electronics involved in setting all that up, all of which require parts that are in short supply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoeGTI7 said: I think you're grossly simplifying it. There isn't a chance in hell that VW were going to do a bespoke mass produced car, chip shortages or not. But of course, the chip shortages do affect everything. So many things are indirectly affected by it. Different body panels would obviously require re-tooling... different tools, re-configured robots, new robots, reconfigured assembly lines, etc... There are plenty of electronics involved in setting all that up, all of which require parts that are in short supply! they wouldn’t do based it on the figures. They wouldn’t sell enough to make the rnd costs back. I seriously doubt theyd have to rebuild their production lines for slightly wider wheel arches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 59 minutes ago, R_wannabe_owner said: In these days of managing and reducing costs, its very unlikely VW would ever produce a limited number of bespoke body panel pressings for a low volume anniversary model. IMHO, that would never get signed off by the bean counters in VW’s Ivory Tower. At best, I think all that could have been expected was a anniversary-specific badges, maybe different alloys and a few pieces of model-specific trim. It’s got the badges and carbon fibre trim and as for the alloys - at least there’s the blue option, along with blue door mirror caps 🤣. exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mange Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Now you can build it on the .de Site :). And it is expensive . But you don´t need all blue https://www.instagram.com/p/CeS-FhpjMso/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboTrev Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Yes, very expensive and standard spec does not include leather and akrapovic amongst others. I wonder when VWUK are going to launch it and what our standard spec and price will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldfort Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 32 minutes ago, TurboTrev said: Yes, very expensive and standard spec does not include leather and akrapovic amongst others. I wonder when VWUK are going to launch it and what our standard spec and price will be? I think VWUK would just like to get some of the backorder shifted. Pretty soon they will face a growing new gripe - "where's my engine cover?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedjunkie Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Looks like you get leather but no akrapovic. Wonder when it will be on UK site as my German isn’t brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHG Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 It’s on the website, but not ready to order. https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/golf-r-20.html and it does come with akrapovic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedjunkie Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just now, AHG said: It’s on the website, but not ready to order. https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/golf-r-20.html and it does come with akrapovic It’s not included on German configurator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHG Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 https://www.volkswagen.de/de/konfigurator.html/__app/der-neue-golf/golf-active/golf-r-20-years.app?category-app=private&carlineId-app=30310&exteriorId-app=F14+0Q0Q&interiorId-app=F56+++++OB&modelId-app=CD1RPT%24MAAUE4R%24GW4RW4R%24GYOSYOS&modelVersion-app=1&modelYear-app=2023&salesGroupId-app=33380&trimName-app=R+"20+Years"&buildabilityStatus-app=buildable&---={"configuration-step-navigation-service"%3A"%2F%3FconfigStep%3D%7B%22context%22%3A%2230310-33380-R%2B%5C%2220%2BYears%5C%22%22%2C%22configurationStep%22%3A%22options%22%7D"} Wrex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shug Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 6 hours ago, egg said: It’s wiring looms and silicon chips holding builds back. different body pieces would have little to impact on delivery times. Changing electronics would. No way would they produce cars with major changes needed to their production lines. Would need major reconfiguration of the line and supply chains for a small volume. What do I know, only been in Ford, Vauxhall, BMW, Merc, VW, Audi, Kia, Hyundai and a few other production plants over the past few years 🤪 JoeGTI7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2727 Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, TurboTrev said: Yes, very expensive and standard spec does not include leather and akrapovic amongst others. I wonder when VWUK are going to launch it and what our standard spec and price will be? Yes expensive, PP and Leather is standard on the ED20, but Akra/DCC is not on the German configurator, I bought my fully loaded 1 year old 30% below new price 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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